CB1100 Idle speed instability problem

[the Ferret]

That would be very fortunate if that's all it was. Keep us informed

[Cormanus]

Fingers crossed zirconxi.

[Cormanus]

dsan1964, I've moved your question from this thread and started a new one [url=http://cb1100forum.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=15668]here.

Good to hear from you.

[Johnnb_imp]

It's a disgrace that these CB1100's even have these problems with idle speed instability.
All these problems should have been sorted by Honda before the bike ever came to the market.
I am amazed on this forum to see how many CB1100's have this problem.
I thought the PGMF1 Injection system was one of the best in the world.
Obviously not !!!
My 2014 CB1100EX has developed this problem and this is on a bike that cost me over 10 grand !!!
It's not acceptable
PERIOD

I was there when the CB750 made its debut on the motorcycling world. In a 10 year production run I never heard of any major issues with electrics or engine issues. They just fired up and went which is the reason anyone buys a motorcycle. I have seen some very high mileage CB750 bikes and always only the highest praise from their owners
My new 2014 CB1100EX has only done 12,000 dry miles and has had lots of issues.
Progress. I don't think so !!!
I thought the idea of buying a new motorcycle was to get out there to ride and blow away your troubles, not to be constantly on a forum trying to work out issues that frankly shouldn't excist on such an expensive motorcycle.

Honda
I'm not interested in sorting out your fuel injection idle tickover problems or any other of the issues on these bikes that you seem to think are acceptable.
THEY ARE NOT !!!.
I bought the bike to have thousands of trouble free miles and ride off into the sunset.

HONDA YOU NEED TO GET YOUR ACT TOGETHER BECAUSE SOME OF YOUR PRODUCTS ARE OVER PRICED AND NOT FIT FOR PURPOSE.
ON TOP OF THAT YOUR ATTITUDE TO THE CUSTOMER ONCE THE MOTORCYCLE HAS BEEN PURCHASED
IS ON A SCALE OF 1 to 10.
ZERO

[max]

Well John, we're not the complaints department here, we try to help each other if we can

[Lord Popgun]

I gotta go with Max on this.

[the Ferret]

No manufacturer ....car, motorcycle, boat or airplane makes a perfect product. Regardless of price. Look at the Boeing 737 Max airplane that costs 106 million dollars. If they make 10,000 of a product, a certain percentage of that number will have issues. Some significant issues. Nobody that ends up with one of these defective products is happy, naturally, and generally few are pleased with how the dealer/manufacturer responds to their complaints.

We have over 5000 registered members from something like 23 countries. The number of reported problems gave been very few, but there have been some. I doubt if it's been more than 1 or 2 percent, but no one, not even Honda can make every single motorcycle they make perfect. Wish they could, but it's physically impossible.

If you get a bad one and Honda won't or cant make it right, it only makes sense to get rid of it and get something else. I did that after 3 years of trouble with a Chevy Truck that cost as much as 3 1/2 CB 1100's. All you can do is move on.

[Johnnb_imp]

I think in europe its regulated on the european level and not on state level, but as of now i am still searching

just did some riding and the stalling happens even faster now, after 15 min. of city riding, not with even that much stop and go since I rode outside of rush hour.

Because all of this I am considering selling this bike if there isnt a clear solution, this is unacceptable and i am sad this is actually happening to me.

Most of all I didnt expect such a bad experience from a Honda.
I might sound like I'm overacting, but its the way I feel about the bike at this moment, I can not trust it if I want to go riding.

My technician doesnt know what it is, based on my brief description only I must say.
And I am waiting for the respons of the dealer I bought it from.
I also mailed the closest Honda dealer for a second opinion.

The few cases I found, here and on the french forum, didn't provide a clear answer about the root, let alone what the solution is.
Same on the Taiwanese facebook where there are videos of the issue.

All this is not very reassuring.

Tomorrow I will be riding from Ghent to Brussels for some job tests, and I'm curious to see how the bike will behave on that trip and at the same time scared for the hell that is called Brussels traffic.
Stalling all the time in that city....grrr I dont wanna think about it.

To be continued..

I have all the same problems with my 2014 CB1100EX
The whole experience of this bike I bought from new has been disastrous.
Too many issues. Not worth the money and not enjoyable to ride anymore.
This bike is a total FLOP

[Houtman_imp]

Johnnb , I feel really bad for you that you have had all the problems with your bike. It is not to say that all CB 1100's are a flop but your bike certainly is .
One thing to think about : how many spouses are a flop and it is far more expensive to get rid of them than to get rid of a bike !!!

[pdedse]

Johnnb , I feel really bad for you that you have had all the problems with your bike. It is not to say that all CB 1100's are a flop but your bike certainly is .
One thing to think about : how many spouses are a flop and it is far more expensive to get rid of them than to get rid of a bike !!!

According to "da'Net", about 43% of first marriages end in divorce, so Honda appears to be doing pretty good in comparison.

I think in europe its regulated on the european level and not on state level, but as of now i am still searching

just did some riding and the stalling happens even faster now, after 15 min. of city riding, not with even that much stop and go since I rode outside of rush hour.

Because all of this I am considering selling this bike if there isnt a clear solution, this is unacceptable and i am sad this is actually happening to me.

Most of all I didnt expect such a bad experience from a Honda.
I might sound like I'm overacting, but its the way I feel about the bike at this moment, I can not trust it if I want to go riding.

My technician doesnt know what it is, based on my brief description only I must say.
And I am waiting for the respons of the dealer I bought it from.
I also mailed the closest Honda dealer for a second opinion.

The few cases I found, here and on the french forum, didn't provide a clear answer about the root, let alone what the solution is.
Same on the Taiwanese facebook where there are videos of the issue.

All this is not very reassuring.

Tomorrow I will be riding from Ghent to Brussels for some job tests, and I'm curious to see how the bike will behave on that trip and at the same time scared for the hell that is called Brussels traffic.
Stalling all the time in that city....grrr I dont wanna think about it.

To be continued..

I have all the same problems with my 2014 CB1100EX
The whole experience of this bike I bought from new has been disastrous.
Too many issues. Not worth the money and not enjoyable to ride anymore.
This bike is a total FLOP

John, I preface the following with a simple statement: I sincerely hope your next bike works out better for you, really I do.

But, while I think you will receive a sympathetic ear regarding your issues, what's your motivation for telling us several times how awful your bike is here on this forum? If it is still to vent, then by all means, I guess. It truly is unfortunate that yours turned out to be bad. If you are looking for advice...

1. Have you taken up your issues directly with Honda Customer Service, not dealership, but C.S. ? If so, and you received no response, or a "sorry" but "no action" from them, then you've likely done what you can, unless you want to invest time/money into what, "legal action", class action law-suite?

My low/idle experience: I did contact C.S. I typed a 2 page letter explaining what others had been through, I referenced this site, copied several statements that seemed to pinpoint the issue, and I specifically asked them to explain what they would do about it. Within maybe 2 months they emailed me back and we set up a phone call. They listened. Then they outlined their case: I needed to go through my dealership, have them diagnose the issue. The dealership warned me that because my idle issues were intermittent, they wouldn't limit diagnostic charge to one hour because they had to spend time with bike until it acted up. Arg! Back to C.S. They stood by their statement that they wanted to know what it was first, then MAYBE they would help out (note: looking back at it, this is where I should have been more adament that C.S. should have contacted dealership and charged me only for 1 hour diagnostic fee).

The bike was 6 months out of warranty. At the time, it seemed others were having difficulty diagnosing the issue, but it seemed likely the fault was a bad IACV. One member at the time said his was repaired under warranty and the fix (parts / labor) was in the neighborhood of 3 grand. That scared me away. My bike needed new tires, needed valve check, I had only paid 7k for it new, and so while looking at a Triumph, I found the dealership was going to give me nearly 5 grand for trade in...I got 2 years out of the bike and 10miles, so instead of doing tires, valve check and getting idle issue fixed, not knowing if I would have to pay all or part of a possibly expensive fix...I took the trade in. But I write all the above to give you, others, an idea of what happens with C.S....maybe to learn from it.

I sure wish my '14 standard had worked out, I loved the bike. But I moved on.

2. If you've exhausted all that you're able / willing to do, then I would say it is time to do just that--move on from your CB1100.

I can't tell you how frustrated I was when my '14 started with the idle issues. It just seemed so "unfair"...everybody had always told me how reliable Honda bikes were. I bought the darned thing because of the positive reputation of Honda. I spent all that money! Arg. Now when people tell me "you'll never have issues with ____ , it's rock-solid"...my answer is: "you won't have any issues--until you do".

I truly hope this is the only "lemon" experience you have with motorcycles. Those Triumphs are pretty sweet looking / sounding machines. Good luck with your next purchase.