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Checking valve clearances
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(12-10-2022, 04:00 AM)PowerDubs_imp Wrote:
(12-10-2022, 01:17 AM)12milesout_imp Wrote: Picked mine up Thursday evening. I had asked for a breakdown of the clearances when i dropped it off, but didn't get one. Everything was in spec, but they didn't say what the observed clearances were. Total was $875; had I known that ahead of time, I probably would have opted to do it myself.

Labor: 5 hours @ 129.00 $645.00
Parts: 126.52
Shop supplies 38.06
waste disposal 12.90
tax 52.23

Total $874.71



What parts? What supplies? What waste?

Even better- question- what dealer?- so nobody makes the mistake of going there. You got ripped.

As far as 'if I had known'- they should have provided you with a written estimate before doing the work.
(12-10-2022, 01:36 AM)DrewNJ_imp Wrote:
(12-09-2022, 07:51 PM)Tev62_imp Wrote: Valve checks are often misunderstood by owners and possibly many dealer mechanics too. When a manufacturer gives a clearance range, say 0.14mm - 0.20mm they intend you to leave the shims well alone, if when measured, they are anywhere within that range including the outer limits. They are expecting another check at the next interval and have allowed for extra wear. They are not concerned on the next check if the value ends up at 0.12 or 0.23, they have allowed for this and that is when they expect you to change the shims.

There are plenty of owners and dealers who seem to think the middle value of 0.17 (in my example) is the ideal target gap and re-shim to that. Taking this approach will be the difference between taking the camshafts out every single service interval and possibly not taking them out for the next 100,000 miles.

That's a really good point!
So many assume that your going to burn up valves immediately if the motor is run for any period of time with valves that may be slightly out of spec.
(12-10-2022, 01:17 AM)12milesout_imp Wrote: Picked mine up Thursday evening. I had asked for a breakdown of the clearances when i dropped it off, but didn't get one. Everything was in spec, but they didn't say what the observed clearances were. Total was $875; had I known that ahead of time, I probably would have opted to do it myself.

Labor: 5 hours @ 129.00 $645.00
Parts: 126.52
Shop supplies 38.06
waste disposal 12.90
tax 52.23

Total $874.71

Personally, I would not be happy with the "everything was in spec". IMHO- if they can break down the cost of the work down to a single penny, and expect payment down to a single penny, they should also provide and document the findings/results for the work performed. Especially for $875.


Agreed 100%

The parts were the 5 head cover gaskets and the 8 seals for the head cover bolts. It looks like the charged approx 50% above the online pricing, which isn't all that surprising. I'm not sure how they calculate shop supplies and waste, but it seems to be what a lot of shops are doing these days. I wasn't provided with a written quote before they did the work; I made the appointment almost a month ago, and had a narrow window of time in which to get it done.
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Checking valve clearances - by Maturecheese_imp - 11-28-2022, 01:37 AM
RE: Checking valve clearances - by the Ferret - 11-28-2022, 01:55 AM
RE: Checking valve clearances - by Dave_imp - 11-29-2022, 05:21 AM
RE: Checking valve clearances - by Gone in 60 - 11-30-2022, 02:38 AM
RE: Checking valve clearances - by DrewNJ_imp - 12-07-2022, 08:01 AM
Checking valve clearances - by MMC_imp - 12-07-2022, 08:28 AM
RE: Checking valve clearances - by peterbaron - 12-07-2022, 10:55 AM
RE: Checking valve clearances - by DrewNJ_imp - 12-07-2022, 11:19 AM
RE: Checking valve clearances - by peterbaron - 12-07-2022, 11:27 AM
RE: Checking valve clearances - by Wisedrum - 12-07-2022, 07:01 PM
RE: Checking valve clearances - by Mixagon_imp - 12-07-2022, 08:36 PM
RE: Checking valve clearances - by Haystack_imp - 12-08-2022, 09:57 AM
RE: Checking valve clearances - by pdedse - 12-08-2022, 09:59 AM
RE: Checking valve clearances - by Haystack_imp - 12-08-2022, 10:05 AM
RE: Checking valve clearances - by max - 12-08-2022, 10:10 AM
RE: Checking valve clearances - by the Ferret - 12-08-2022, 10:40 AM
RE: Checking valve clearances - by peterbaron - 12-08-2022, 12:43 PM
RE: Checking valve clearances - by Gone in 60 - 12-08-2022, 02:34 PM
Checking valve clearances - by Mtneers - 12-08-2022, 10:57 PM
RE: Checking valve clearances - by DrewNJ_imp - 12-08-2022, 11:37 PM
RE: Checking valve clearances - by the Ferret - 12-09-2022, 01:14 AM
RE: Checking valve clearances - by max - 12-09-2022, 02:02 AM
Checking valve clearances - by PowerDubs_imp - 12-09-2022, 06:27 AM
RE: Checking valve clearances - by peterbaron - 12-09-2022, 07:35 AM
RE: Checking valve clearances - by Wisedrum - 12-09-2022, 08:18 AM
RE: Checking valve clearances - by Tev62 - 12-09-2022, 07:51 PM
RE: Checking valve clearances - by the Ferret - 12-10-2022, 12:08 AM
RE: Checking valve clearances - by the Ferret - 12-10-2022, 01:33 AM
RE: Checking valve clearances - by DrewNJ_imp - 12-10-2022, 01:36 AM
RE: Checking valve clearances - by Enzofour_imp - 12-10-2022, 03:14 AM
RE: Checking valve clearances - by Gone in 60 - 12-10-2022, 04:56 AM
RE: Checking valve clearances - by 12milesout_imp - 12-10-2022, 05:16 AM
RE: Checking valve clearances - by max - 12-10-2022, 06:24 AM
RE: Checking valve clearances - by DrewNJ_imp - 12-10-2022, 06:38 AM
RE: Checking valve clearances - by Cormanus - 12-10-2022, 07:09 AM
RE: Checking valve clearances - by Dave_imp - 12-10-2022, 07:29 AM
RE: Checking valve clearances - by the Ferret - 12-10-2022, 07:36 AM
RE: Checking valve clearances - by pdedse - 12-10-2022, 07:53 AM
RE: Checking valve clearances - by the Ferret - 12-10-2022, 11:47 AM
RE: Checking valve clearances - by Gone in 60 - 12-10-2022, 12:54 PM
RE: Checking valve clearances - by pdedse - 12-10-2022, 03:13 PM
RE: Checking valve clearances - by Enzofour_imp - 12-11-2022, 02:03 AM
RE: Checking valve clearances - by Gone in 60 - 12-11-2022, 03:35 AM
RE: Checking valve clearances - by peterbaron - 12-11-2022, 06:58 AM
RE: Checking valve clearances - by the Ferret - 12-11-2022, 08:57 AM
RE: Checking valve clearances - by peterbaron - 12-11-2022, 08:58 AM
RE: Checking valve clearances - by peterbaron - 12-11-2022, 09:26 AM
RE: Checking valve clearances - by peterbaron - 12-11-2022, 09:35 AM
RE: Checking valve clearances - by peterbaron - 12-11-2022, 09:53 AM
RE: Checking valve clearances - by peterbaron - 12-11-2022, 12:25 PM

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