Fuel Injection Problem with a 2014 California model

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Thank you to all the members who have replied. The Honda service department manager spoke to the Honda representative and you'll laugh at what he told him. The rep. said that the CB1100 motor has been "tamed" because this is what people who purchase this bike want, and that my bike is running correctly (please remember he is only responding from what the dealer told him). I really wasn't in any position to discuss this any further with the dealer so I thanked him for his help and left. I like Ferret's suggestion of having another forum member take my bike for a test ride, and if there are any of you out there in the San Diego area willing to do this for me then please let me know. I may be being picky about my bike, but after 40 years of riding and ownership of over 20 different motorcycles, I think I know when an engine in running properly and when it isn't. I am convinced my bike is running too lean below 3000 RPM, and therefor the very noticeable loss in torque in that range. I have a friend who is a certified mechanic that I haven't seen for a while and I think I will look him up and ask him to take my bike for a ride. My 1998 VFR800 pulls cleanly from idle, and I expect my 2014 CB1100 to at least do the same. This bike really is not enjoyable to ride like this. I don't know the proper way to address this with Honda at this point, other than to write them a letter, or to return my bike to the dealer and refuse to take it until they fix it, but this may get me no where. I do not want to spend a lot of money putting it on a dynamometer, and I'm convinced the dealer will stand by their "seat-of-the-pants" evaluation and not budge, concerning any type of warranty work. It has been suggested to me that I break it in fully and see if it improves (it has gotten better from my first day riding it). Any suggestions are greatly appreciated.

Thank you.

Make them prove it's been tamed. It's already pretty tame. What did they do, make it into a beginner's retro? The CA bike runs the same as the 49-state motorcycle. We've seen plenty of dyno tests that show the power curve, torque and horsepower.

This thing pulls strong off the bottom, stronger than any VFR except the 1200. Also, there is no magical break-in. It should run great from the first mile.

Do not accept this nonsense; take it to the top. Complain at the highest levels. Ask what the engine power for the 2014 is compared to the 2013. They have to report that. Get your own dyno test done to show exactly how the bike IS running. Why keep guessing and relying on some clown saying it's been detuned? No way. The Ferret's had the 2013 and now has a 2014, he's not reported any lame powerband.

We all know how this bike runs, and it's awesome. Something is wrong with your motorcycle.

I guess if you want to go to the trouble of finding someone in California to ride your bike, you can, but really, after spending so much to purchase the bike, you'd be better served getting a dyno test so you can present the chart to Honda and show how it differs from the 2013. Keep the bike, it can be fixed, but your dealer is not handling this and whoever spoke to you from Honda is not fully aware of the situation, as you mentioned.

You want this fixed, you need FACTS so get that dyno run done. Seat of the pants will get you nowhere, you will know nothing for sure just having some other guy ride the bike. This is a warranty issue and you'll have to be persistent and patient, but relentless. If you don't know how to handle this, you'll have to learn by doing. There are laws about these things, and in fact, if the issue you are having is emissions-related, the Federal Government would also be involved.

Spending one more minute trying to solve this on the Internet, sorry to say, would be a waste of your time.

Dave, this is very good advice from Red Mist (my bold). My '10 runs as the majority of forum members report. If anything your bike should be better. While filtering, or moving in rush hour, 2nd with the throttle just cracked is standard operating procedure. You need to fix this.

Good luck and cheers.