04-28-2015, 10:05 PM
Well, technically he's at $10,900 net before tax with the mysterious "doc fee" and dubious "destination" added in. That's only $1k off list.
The bike is close enough to me but it will take me all day to go get it and trailer it home. I look at it like I have a fixed amount to spend on the bike; what doesn't go into the purchase can go into quality accessories and gear. Even though it's an emotional purchase on my end (I don't technically "need" it like I might need a new furnace), I try to remain composed and proceed in a business-like fashion...because the dealer's judgment is not clouded by emotion. He is in a position to fleece me and I don't need to allow him to do it.
Generally speaking, U.S. vehicle prices end up being lower, partially as a result of being able to haggle with dealers. The Saturn car brand had a "no haggle" policy, as does (I think) the used car giant CarMaxx. All that means to me is that everyone pays the highest price, as opposed to those who haggle being able to get a better deal. If someone doesn't want to haggle, and many don't, they can simply pay the asking price.
The bike is close enough to me but it will take me all day to go get it and trailer it home. I look at it like I have a fixed amount to spend on the bike; what doesn't go into the purchase can go into quality accessories and gear. Even though it's an emotional purchase on my end (I don't technically "need" it like I might need a new furnace), I try to remain composed and proceed in a business-like fashion...because the dealer's judgment is not clouded by emotion. He is in a position to fleece me and I don't need to allow him to do it.
(04-28-2015, 07:51 PM)Cormanus_imp Wrote: You blokes do it tough.
In Australia dealers of new and used vehicles are required by law to advertise a "drive away no more to pay" price, or out the door in US terms. They can tell you what the components of that OTD price are if they want, but it has to be after first giving the OTD price. When you want to buy a vehicle from a dealer here, you know exactly what they want on the cheque and there can be no surprises after you think you've done a deal.
Generally speaking, U.S. vehicle prices end up being lower, partially as a result of being able to haggle with dealers. The Saturn car brand had a "no haggle" policy, as does (I think) the used car giant CarMaxx. All that means to me is that everyone pays the highest price, as opposed to those who haggle being able to get a better deal. If someone doesn't want to haggle, and many don't, they can simply pay the asking price.