2014 DLX Wheels on 2017 EX

[17-CB-002]

So, Alain: you sealed your rims and installed tubeless tires?

Yes, I used the "OUTEX" kit from Japan. Their 3M tapes were cut -out with the correct/proper width & length for each rim. As previously mentioned, I took a leap of faith and did the conversion when it was time to replace the tires. They were replaced with tubeless type "Bridgestone".
Because of the unknown I regularly monitor the pressure and kept a log of pressure drop over time. I expected to loose 1 or 2 Psi/month, however, the result were better than expected over the 9 months test period.
One of my big surprise was the inside finish of the rim/spokes, it was not of the expected HONDA quality, may be HONDA thinks that the customer will never see the inside of the rims, they lower their finish to reduce cost. I will post some of the modification pictures taken.
Would I do it again? You bet anytime!

Asking out of curiosity or perhaps ignorance (meaning, not trying to be difficult): why would the finish on the inside of a rim matter? It's nearly literally never going to see the light of day, and will have very little contact with moisture / air as the rims were designed in mind with rim-strips and tubes. Bear in mind I'm wondering aloud here not as one who typically defends the Honda brand.

Oh, forgot to ask: did the OUTEX kit also come with a sealant besides the tape, or just the tape?

Asking out of curiosity or perhaps ignorance (meaning, not trying to be difficult): why would the finish on the inside of a rim matter? It's nearly literally never going to see the light of day, and will have very little contact with moisture / air as the rims were designed in mind with rim-strips and tubes. Bear in mind I'm wondering aloud here not as one who typically defends the Honda brand.

Oh, forgot to ask: did the OUTEX kit also come with a sealant besides the tape, or just the tape? I work in the automotive industry for over 33 years, the #1 worldwide so that's why the comments came from.
I love Honda (all my 7+ bikes were HONDA, and never owned any other brands), I am not putting them down, it was just a casual observation. What I meant and will try to find the picture to support it, was the spokes nuts inside the rim were all chewed up during assembly at factory- may be the materials were too soft?
Using a dremmel I had to grind the chewed up metal materials down so that they will not cause a cut on the 3M tape.
BTW, to prove that I like HONDA over any other brands I can purchase Yamaha at a discount and never did.
Sorry I did not see your 2nd question, Yes, I did use marine type silicone one each spoke as a secondary back-up safety - just in case.

Ah, I get it; see I wouldn't have noticed because I don't have that experience.

So, Alain: you sealed your rims and installed tubeless tires?

Yes, I used the "OUTEX" kit from Japan. Their 3M tapes were cut -out with the correct/proper width & length for each rim. As previously mentioned, I took a leap of faith and did the conversion when it was time to replace the tires. They were replaced with tubeless type "Bridgestone".
Because of the unknown I regularly monitor the pressure and kept a log of pressure drop over time. I expected to loose 1 or 2 Psi/month, however, the result were better than expected over the 9 months test period.
One of my big surprise was the inside finish of the rim/spokes, it was not of the expected HONDA quality, may be HONDA thinks that the customer will never see the inside of the rims, they lower their finish to reduce cost. I will post some of the modification pictures taken.
Would I do it again? You bet anytime!

Asking out of curiosity or perhaps ignorance (meaning, not trying to be difficult): why would the finish on the inside of a rim matter? It's nearly literally never going to see the light of day, and will have very little contact with moisture / air as the rims were designed in mind with rim-strips and tubes. Bear in mind I'm wondering aloud here not as one who typically defends the Honda brand.

Oh, forgot to ask: did the OUTEX kit also come with a sealant besides the tape, or just the tape?

Asking out of curiosity or perhaps ignorance (meaning, not trying to be difficult): why would the finish on the inside of a rim matter? It's nearly literally never going to see the light of day, and will have very little contact with moisture / air as the rims were designed in mind with rim-strips and tubes. Bear in mind I'm wondering aloud here not as one who typically defends the Honda brand.

Oh, forgot to ask: did the OUTEX kit also come with a sealant besides the tape, or just the tape? I work in the automotive industry for over 33 years, the #1 worldwide so that's why the comments came from.
I love Honda (all my 7+ bikes were HONDA, and never owned any other brands), I am not putting them down, it was just a casual observation. What I meant and will try to find the picture to support it, was the spokes nuts inside the rim were all chewed up during assembly at factory- may be the materials were too soft?
Using a dremmel I had to grind the chewed up metal materials down so that they will not cause a cut on the 3M tape.
BTW, to prove that I like HONDA over any other brands I can purchase Yamaha at a discount and never did.
Sorry I did not see your 2nd question, Yes, I did use marine type silicone one each spoke as a secondary back-up safety - just in case.

And now I understand specifically what was messed up and why it matters for the conversion. A very good thing for others to look for / keep in mind if they contemplate converting from tube to tubeless.

Thanks for the explanation.

Ah, I get it; see I wouldn't have noticed because I don't have that experience.

So, Alain: you sealed your rims and installed tubeless tires?

Yes, I used the "OUTEX" kit from Japan. Their 3M tapes were cut -out with the correct/proper width & length for each rim. As previously mentioned, I took a leap of faith and did the conversion when it was time to replace the tires. They were replaced with tubeless type "Bridgestone".
Because of the unknown I regularly monitor the pressure and kept a log of pressure drop over time. I expected to loose 1 or 2 Psi/month, however, the result were better than expected over the 9 months test period.
One of my big surprise was the inside finish of the rim/spokes, it was not of the expected HONDA quality, may be HONDA thinks that the customer will never see the inside of the rims, they lower their finish to reduce cost. I will post some of the modification pictures taken.
Would I do it again? You bet anytime!

Asking out of curiosity or perhaps ignorance (meaning, not trying to be difficult): why would the finish on the inside of a rim matter? It's nearly literally never going to see the light of day, and will have very little contact with moisture / air as the rims were designed in mind with rim-strips and tubes. Bear in mind I'm wondering aloud here not as one who typically defends the Honda brand.

Oh, forgot to ask: did the OUTEX kit also come with a sealant besides the tape, or just the tape?

Asking out of curiosity or perhaps ignorance (meaning, not trying to be difficult): why would the finish on the inside of a rim matter? It's nearly literally never going to see the light of day, and will have very little contact with moisture / air as the rims were designed in mind with rim-strips and tubes. Bear in mind I'm wondering aloud here not as one who typically defends the Honda brand.

Oh, forgot to ask: did the OUTEX kit also come with a sealant besides the tape, or just the tape? I work in the automotive industry for over 33 years, the #1 worldwide so that's why the comments came from.
I love Honda (all my 7+ bikes were HONDA, and never owned any other brands), I am not putting them down, it was just a casual observation. What I meant and will try to find the picture to support it, was the spokes nuts inside the rim were all chewed up during assembly at factory- may be the materials were too soft?
Using a dremmel I had to grind the chewed up metal materials down so that they will not cause a cut on the 3M tape.
BTW, to prove that I like HONDA over any other brands I can purchase Yamaha at a discount and never did.
Sorry I did not see your 2nd question, Yes, I did use marine type silicone one each spoke as a secondary back-up safety - just in case.

And now I understand specifically what was messed up and why it matters for the conversion. A very good thing for others to look for / keep in mind if they contemplate converting from tube to tubeless.


Here's a picture of the inside of the rim. If one look closer at the lowest spoke nut , the burrs can be easily seen.