Brits To Tackle Loud Exhaust Pipes With Noise Cameras

[GoldOxide_imp]

Hopefully this works and the US adoptes similar measures in the future. Everyday I am aggravated and disturbed by millennials on sport bikes and/or baby boomers on V twins with uncapped open exhausts that rev the sh#t out of their engines with no regard for any of the people around them.

Well said!

Kennebunkport Maine has the following signs posted in their town "Please ride quiet ride safe"

Best sign I ever witnessed.

Well said!

Kennebunkport Maine has the following signs posted in their town "Please ride quiet ride safe"

Best sign I ever witnessed.
That is a nice sign indeed, and for most people, they will have the emotional space to respect the community.

But those who are self-absorbed will interpret the sign as intimidating or controlling and will behave in an obnoxious contrarian selfish manner. I see this pretty well daily. They are at high risk of seriously injuring somebody one day.

[DBM_imp]

Hopefully this works and the US adoptes similar measures in the future. Everyday I am aggravated and disturbed by millennials on sport bikes and/or baby boomers on V twins with uncapped open exhausts that rev the sh#t out of their engines with no regard for any of the people around them.

Just yesterday a group of us had ridden down the coast for a coffee at one of our favourite donut shops.
When we arrived there were several of the "straight pipes" types already there; you know who I mean without mentioning a brand name.
They left shortly after with constant cranking of the throttle and then blasted away down the road winding the V-twin engines up tight. I don't know who they thought they were impressing, but it wasn't anyone within hearing range.

Just yesterday a group of us had ridden down the coast for a coffee at one of our favourite donut shops.
When we arrived there were several of the "straight pipes" types already there; you know who I mean without mentioning a brand name.
They left shortly after with constant cranking of the throttle and then blasted away down the road winding the V-twin engines up tight. I don't know who they thought they were impressing, but it wasn't anyone within hearing range. Unfortunately, this type of total disregard of common courtesy and the "I'm gonna do what I want to" attitude of these slime balls ruins the image for those of us who are trying to project a responsible, law abiding persona to the non-riding public. I try my best to ignore these idiots, but it is hard when they blast by you doing twice the legal speed limit at 120 decibels.

[Stichill_imp]

I'm a fairly radical libertarian. But I'm not an anarchist. Regarding personal liberty, someone once said, "Your right to swing your fist ends at the tip of my nose." Governments exist to stop, punish, and prevent contact between fists and noses.

Noise pollution is a serious social problem that detracts from the enjoyment of life and increases stress and health problems by depriving people of the ability to chill and relax. Although not pleasant, I am tolerant of necessary noise like jackhammering to repair a sidewalk and lawn mowers. I'm not tolerant of unnecessary noise like open turbo'd exhaust on speeding dump trucks, f@rt-can tuner cars, "rolling coal" diesel pickups, "boom-boom" cars, and illegally modified car and motorcycle exhaust.

There's a reason it's illegal: it's @&!#%@ obnoxious! Riding around on an extremely loud motorcycle is the social equivalent of f@rting in people's faces. What makes anyone think that is cool and should be tolerated? We all have to live together and having personal liberty in a civil society means being cognizant and respectful of others' right to peace and quiet. Logically, the rider of a loud motorcycle can't claim a right to make noise while denying that others have a right to enjoy a quiet environment. Since the rider of the loud bike is at cause and the passive citizen being disturbed is at effect, the loud rider is an aural aggressor and is objectively in the wrong. The passive citizen on the other hand has done nothing to disturb their neighbors' enjoyment of their lives.

Those who deny rights to others can claim none for themselves. And, there's no such thing as the "right to disturb".

Bring on the noise police.

[emptysea]

it's not about the noise laws...they already exist. It's about the enforcement method that I disagree with. And, as far as motorcycle noise goes, it pales by comparison to airplane noise, truck noise, tuner-car noise, and a host of other things. Lastly, I'd rather that law enforcement focus on distracted driving laws than on noise laws.

[pdedse]

I'm a fairly radical libertarian. But I'm not an anarchist. Regarding personal liberty, someone once said, "Your right to swing your fist ends at the tip of my nose." Governments exist to stop, punish, and prevent contact between fists and noses.

Noise pollution is a serious social problem that detracts from the enjoyment of life and increases stress and health problems by depriving people of the ability to chill and relax. Although not pleasant, I am tolerant of necessary noise like jackhammering to repair a sidewalk and lawn mowers. I'm not tolerant of unnecessary noise like open turbo'd exhaust on speeding dump trucks, f@rt-can tuner cars, "rolling coal" diesel pickups, "boom-boom" cars, and illegally modified car and motorcycle exhaust.

There's a reason it's illegal: it's @&!#%@ obnoxious! Riding around on an extremely loud motorcycle is the social equivalent of f@rting in people's faces. What makes anyone think that is cool and should be tolerated? We all have to live together and having personal liberty in a civil society means being cognizant and respectful of others' right to peace and quiet. Logically, the rider of a loud motorcycle can't claim a right to make noise while denying that others have a right to enjoy a quiet environment. Since the rider of the loud bike is at cause and the passive citizen being disturbed is at effect, the loud rider is an aural aggressor and is objectively in the wrong. The passive citizen on the other hand has done nothing to disturb their neighbors' enjoyment of their lives.

Those who deny rights to others can claim none for themselves. And, there's no such thing as the "right to disturb".

Bring on the noise police.

Philosophy professors around the world just raised their collective eyebrows in appreciation of that remark!

The only problem is that its succinctness and depth fall on deaf ears--damage that resulted from their obnoxiously loud pipes.

it's not about the noise laws...they already exist. It's about the enforcement method that I disagree with. And, as far as motorcycle noise goes, it pales by comparison to airplane noise, truck noise, tuner-car noise, and a host of other things. Lastly, I'd rather that law enforcement focus on distracted driving laws than on noise laws.

On the other hand...maybe loud pipes wake them from their distracted driving???

[GoldOxide_imp]

I'm a fairly radical libertarian. But I'm not an anarchist. Regarding personal liberty, someone once said, "Your right to swing your fist ends at the tip of my nose." Governments exist to stop, punish, and prevent contact between fists and noses.

Noise pollution is a serious social problem that detracts from the enjoyment of life and increases stress and health problems by depriving people of the ability to chill and relax. Although not pleasant, I am tolerant of necessary noise like jackhammering to repair a sidewalk and lawn mowers. I'm not tolerant of unnecessary noise like open turbo'd exhaust on speeding dump trucks, f@rt-can tuner cars, "rolling coal" diesel pickups, "boom-boom" cars, and illegally modified car and motorcycle exhaust.

There's a reason it's illegal: it's @&!#%@ obnoxious! Riding around on an extremely loud motorcycle is the social equivalent of f@rting in people's faces. What makes anyone think that is cool and should be tolerated? We all have to live together and having personal liberty in a civil society means being cognizant and respectful of others' right to peace and quiet. Logically, the rider of a loud motorcycle can't claim a right to make noise while denying that others have a right to enjoy a quiet environment. Since the rider of the loud bike is at cause and the passive citizen being disturbed is at effect, the loud rider is an aural aggressor and is objectively in the wrong. The passive citizen on the other hand has done nothing to disturb their neighbors' enjoyment of their lives.

Those who deny rights to others can claim none for themselves. And, there's no such thing as the "right to disturb".

Bring on the noise police.

(+1) Commonsense courtesy.

There is a reason why many communities have road signs on streets indicating things like, "Please avoid use of engine brakes" for trucks. All vehicle owners, especially those vehicles modified outside factory regulatory conformance, should be held accountable for their choices and behaviour.

God I sound like a crotchety old fart ... but this is so simple.

[Stichill_imp]

it's not about the noise laws...they already exist. It's about the enforcement method that I disagree with. And, as far as motorcycle noise goes, it pales by comparison to airplane noise, truck noise, tuner-car noise, and a host of other things. Lastly, I'd rather that law enforcement focus on distracted driving laws than on noise laws.

I don't like airplane noise either, but at least airplane noise is necessary, and there are ongoing initiatives to mitigate it via engine design, operating protocol, and routing. And I say that as someone who lives in a rural area close to an international airport and understands that planners may send aircraft over my property before they'd send them over a dense residential area.

it's not about the noise laws...they already exist. It's about the enforcement method that I disagree with. And, as far as motorcycle noise goes, it pales by comparison to airplane noise, truck noise, tuner-car noise, and a host of other things. Lastly, I'd rather that law enforcement focus on distracted driving laws than on noise laws.

All should be subject to strict enforcement. When I was a teenager, loud car exhausts ("cherry bombs" or "glasspacks") were rigorously cited. In fact a leak in an otherwise stock muffler or exhaust pipe was rigorously cited. There were zero loud street motorcycles back then. It just wasn't tolerated. The cops from back in my day would have had an absolute field day ticketing today's "scr#w you anything goes" noise offenders.

I saw a comment to a post about "Loud pipes save lives". The commenter said, "Loud pipes cost rights" and I couldn't agree more. As riders, we all need to understand that the actions of those who flout noise regulations will come back to bite those of us who ride courteously. There are places in this world that have simply decided to ban motorcycles altogether. Problem solved.

[rboe]

Jet engines have been muffled a LOT since the days of the 707.

People that don't respect the rules of the road deserve their tickets. Too many cowboys out there thinking they don't have to conform to them (completely forgetting roads are a public resource, paid for and maintained by the public for the public good).

Folks will complain about the police state, but I'd like to know how you enforce these laws without a good stick while these cowboys insist on snubbing their noses at the rest of us. As the population increases there will be more rules to keep fists from hitting noses (think of a boarding house, the more people that move in the more rules you have to have about dishes, food, noise etc. so they can all get along together without killing each other). If you don't like all these rules, stop having kids.

[flynrider]

I was thinking about this the other day as I sat just below the rim of Bryce Canyon. The peaceful scene was interrupted every 5-10 minutes by the sound of uncorked V-twins arriving / departing a parking lot about a mile away.

I can understand those that prefer a little more sound than the quiet hum of the CB, but do you really need everyone within a mile radius to know that you have arrived? Some of these aftermarket pipe configurations just make an absurd amount of unnecessary noise. Walking back to my bike, I felt kind of embarrassed to be associated with those guys.

[Bazbro_imp]

Support here for some great points in the recent posts.