(05-16-2016, 11:22 AM)chync_imp Wrote: [ -> ]I bought mine because I liked the retro look and wanted something to build a cafe bike on. But I when I test drove it I realized how much fun it could be too with that big engine. With the right modifications I would call it something like a retro sport bike. I have the smaller handlebars, racing footpegs, smaller fenders, a single cafe seat that is easier to shift your weight around on (it's much more narrow than stock), Ohlins both on the front and in the back, a fork brace, higher friction brake pads, a less restrictive exhaust, some dual compound tires, and a small windscreen. The exhaust added a few horsepower but overall I haven't done anything to really change the engine performance. But with all of the handling mods it really isn't the same bike anymore. I have kept up with some true sport bikes in the mountains where I ride. The suspension and tires made the most difference keeping the wheels stuck to the road. I have been able to use all of the tire except about half an inch left on the edge when you start scraping the center stand. I love it because I can ride it more like a sport bike when the mood strikes but swapping out the seat and I can take a passenger too. Whatever you want to call it I love this bike.
When you say front Ohlins what are you referring to? Road and Track springs or an actual cartridge conversion (like Andreani, the owners of Ohlins, make)? Just curious as I'm looking to do up my suspension and am trying to consider all options.
(05-17-2016, 05:54 AM)kmoney_imp Wrote: [ -> ] (05-16-2016, 11:22 AM)chync_imp Wrote: [ -> ]I bought mine because I liked the retro look and wanted something to build a cafe bike on. But I when I test drove it I realized how much fun it could be too with that big engine. With the right modifications I would call it something like a retro sport bike. I have the smaller handlebars, racing footpegs, smaller fenders, a single cafe seat that is easier to shift your weight around on (it's much more narrow than stock), Ohlins both on the front and in the back, a fork brace, higher friction brake pads, a less restrictive exhaust, some dual compound tires, and a small windscreen. The exhaust added a few horsepower but overall I haven't done anything to really change the engine performance. But with all of the handling mods it really isn't the same bike anymore. I have kept up with some true sport bikes in the mountains where I ride. The suspension and tires made the most difference keeping the wheels stuck to the road. I have been able to use all of the tire except about half an inch left on the edge when you start scraping the center stand. I love it because I can ride it more like a sport bike when the mood strikes but swapping out the seat and I can take a passenger too. Whatever you want to call it I love this bike.
When you say front Ohlins what are you referring to? Road and Track springs or an actual cartridge conversion (like Andreani, the owners of Ohlins, make)? Just curious as I'm looking to do up my suspension and am trying to consider all options.
When you say front Ohlins what are you referring to? Road and Track springs or an actual cartridge conversion (like Andreani, the owners of Ohlins, make)? Just curious as I'm looking to do up my suspension and am trying to consider all options.
I had the Ohlins cartridge inserts installed in the front forks. It was a cheaper conversion than inverted forks. Great improvement but the front still isn't as stiff when you get over 80mph on a less than ideal highway. Not that I ever do that :-). It's definitely not a super sport bike but handling was greatly improved. I spend most of my riding time on the twisties in the mountains and it made a huge difference. You can see it in the tire wear.
(05-17-2016, 08:51 AM)chync_imp Wrote: [ -> ] (05-17-2016, 05:54 AM)kmoney_imp Wrote: [ -> ] (05-16-2016, 11:22 AM)chync_imp Wrote: [ -> ]I bought mine because I liked the retro look and wanted something to build a cafe bike on. But I when I test drove it I realized how much fun it could be too with that big engine. With the right modifications I would call it something like a retro sport bike. I have the smaller handlebars, racing footpegs, smaller fenders, a single cafe seat that is easier to shift your weight around on (it's much more narrow than stock), Ohlins both on the front and in the back, a fork brace, higher friction brake pads, a less restrictive exhaust, some dual compound tires, and a small windscreen. The exhaust added a few horsepower but overall I haven't done anything to really change the engine performance. But with all of the handling mods it really isn't the same bike anymore. I have kept up with some true sport bikes in the mountains where I ride. The suspension and tires made the most difference keeping the wheels stuck to the road. I have been able to use all of the tire except about half an inch left on the edge when you start scraping the center stand. I love it because I can ride it more like a sport bike when the mood strikes but swapping out the seat and I can take a passenger too. Whatever you want to call it I love this bike.
When you say front Ohlins what are you referring to? Road and Track springs or an actual cartridge conversion (like Andreani, the owners of Ohlins, make)? Just curious as I'm looking to do up my suspension and am trying to consider all options.
When you say front Ohlins what are you referring to? Road and Track springs or an actual cartridge conversion (like Andreani, the owners of Ohlins, make)? Just curious as I'm looking to do up my suspension and am trying to consider all options.
I had the Ohlins cartridge inserts installed in the front forks. It was a cheaper conversion than inverted forks. Great improvement but the front still isn't as stiff when you get over 80mph on a less than ideal highway. Not that I ever do that :-). It's definitely not a super sport bike but handling was greatly improved. I spend most of my riding time on the twisties in the mountains and it made a huge difference. You can see it in the tire wear.
When you say front Ohlins what are you referring to? Road and Track springs or an actual cartridge conversion (like Andreani, the owners of Ohlins, make)? Just curious as I'm looking to do up my suspension and am trying to consider all options.
I had the Ohlins cartridge inserts installed in the front forks. It was a cheaper conversion than inverted forks. Great improvement but the front still isn't as stiff when you get over 80mph on a less than ideal highway. Not that I ever do that :-). It's definitely not a super sport bike but handling was greatly improved. I spend most of my riding time on the twisties in the mountains and it made a huge difference. You can see it in the tire wear. Nice. I'm planning on doing basically the same thing. Good to hear you like the setup.
If you get rear shocks with a reservoir, at least in the case of Ohlins, you will have to remove or modify the right side grab rail to keep it from interfering with the adjustment knob. I cut the rail down some on a band saw and the sanded and repainted the rail. I followed the existing lines of the rail so you really can't tell it's been modified. Other brands may be an easier fit.
Considering this concept further, regardless of how the bike is marketed (in those countries where it can still be had), the thing is really a naked sportbike. It actually stops and turns better in the real world than a lot of other machines that look "sporty".
Is this a sportbike? Watch the transformation.
Honda CR 750 in the making. Is this a sportbike?
Not by todays standards. Not even close.
It was a street bike someone made to look like a 1970's racing bike.
Could it be ridden in a sporting manner? Sure