(05-01-2016, 11:23 PM)WhiskeyUSMC1979_imp Wrote: [ -> ]More of a naked Sport(-y) Bike than a cruiser. Of course that doesn't stop people from treating them as such. It's whatever the owner deems it to be for their purposes. You can take a sports car off roading if you like and can make a truck into a corner carver. Same with bikes. Build what you like. Don't expect everyone to agree upon it. Ride to your abilities, not someone else's.
I know I can't corner like Freddie on my CB. I also couldn't stack it full of luggage, raise my bars, and go touring.
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You are making far too much sense, lol!
Yep, thinking about all this, there seems to be a tendency to lump all bikes with a full fairing and more sporty riding position into the "sportbike" category.
Going back to just the 1970s, where our bike traces its ancestry, there are a lot of motorcycles that would without doubt be called sportbikes; I am sure the Kawasaki 500 and 750 triples were regarded as very hot bikes, and I think we can include the Norton Commando, Triumph Bonneville, and many others in the group. The British bikes were lighter and handled far better than anything else for a time, and they dominated desert racing and road racing. Now we consider them quaint and classic but in the 1960s and into the 1970s, until the advent of the 750 Four (CB750), they pretty much ruled the roost. The 750 Four was the first "superbike", if you will. It was considered an expert's machine, the top of the line.
Now we come to our retro-machine, the CB1100, and folks are so used to hearing about today's superbikes which put out over 200 HP (at the crankshaft), so the CB1100 looks like an anachronism. It appears benign, a good first bike. It's honest, doesn't have all that racy plastic and low bars.
Well, bikes are more advanced, but new riders are not. Just because technology has pushed the limits of what can be done with engineering doesn't mean people can start out on a bike that would have been considered fantastic just 35 years ago. Maybe that's why Honda, in the USA, anyway, classifies the CB1100 as a sport bike, as a caution. In the EU, regulations prevent a rider from operating a bike like the CB1100 until they've passed certain tests and have spent time on lower-powered motorcycles. That may explain why it's not called a sportbike in those areas. By the time you can own one, you've proven you know how to ride.
I also note that some comments seem to confuse a sport bike with a production racebike. They are very different. Your Kawasaki ZX-10R, Honda CBR1000RR, Aprilia RSV1000 and the like are homologated production racebikes built under a set of strictures set forth by various racing organizations. But here again, a Honda CBR300, Ninja 300, KTM RC390, or Yamaha R3 looks almost exactly like these bigger machines, but they are not production racebikes. They have rather high bars and low footpegs and are designed as beginner motorcycles or economical transportation. Make no mistake, those bikes can haul in the turns and they are all raced in various clubs, but they're not superbikes.
Any bike can be ridden for sport but there is no set of criteria that can be universally applied to determine what a sportbike is. Is it power, cornering clearance, looks, or the electronics package? No. I don't think anyone would argue much over the idea a Gold Wing or Road King aren't considered sport bikes in the usual sense, but those bike come from a very different design philosophy than the CB1100, whose DNA is traced right back to the very first superbikes and sportbikes.
(05-01-2016, 01:44 PM)EmptySea_imp Wrote: [ -> ]But he's still wearing lace up boots. 
Yep, sneakers, really, and jeans and some kind of light jacket. Fits the story. Basically the translation of what is said at the cafe is "How the heck are you going so fast on that dang bike?" and Freddie replies, "It's the talent. I'm Freddie Spencer." So all that frustrated work the other guy is doing, pouring in nitromethane racing fuel, reworking his bike, was for nothing. It's talent.