05-04-2016, 02:00 AM
05-04-2016, 02:59 AM
Touring - You bet. I've done it, and plenty of others have done it. Very capable.
Adventure - Of course - see Touring and Dual Sport
Cruiser - Meh, some folks call the Griso a Cruiser and if they can do that they can label the CB1100 a cruiser but not in my book.
Supersport -If the riders skill set lends to this, sure. But more like a retro-supersport.
Dual Sport - As the young couple from Belgium proved last year, this bike can do dual sport - just a bit slower than dedicated Adventure or Dual Sport bikes. They Toured and Adventure biked from LA to Belise.
But naked standard is the best fit and we all should know, naked standards were the do-all bikes back in the day and they still are.
Adventure - Of course - see Touring and Dual Sport
Cruiser - Meh, some folks call the Griso a Cruiser and if they can do that they can label the CB1100 a cruiser but not in my book.
Supersport -If the riders skill set lends to this, sure. But more like a retro-supersport.
Dual Sport - As the young couple from Belgium proved last year, this bike can do dual sport - just a bit slower than dedicated Adventure or Dual Sport bikes. They Toured and Adventure biked from LA to Belise.
But naked standard is the best fit and we all should know, naked standards were the do-all bikes back in the day and they still are.
05-04-2016, 03:00 AM
Is it a sports bike, no
Can a competitent person ride it faster than many who own a sports bike, yes
Can a competitent person ride it faster than many who own a sports bike, yes
05-04-2016, 04:28 AM
It's no more a sport bike than a Moto Guzzi V7 Racer is a race bike or a Ducati Scrambler is a scrambler. Puhleeze. I'm good with "standard."
05-04-2016, 05:36 AM
A nice sampling of perspectives. Of course, when Honda first introduce the CB line, they touted the bikes as being derived directly from GP technology. Seems that the guys who ride the bike in a "supersport" fashion are inclined to admit of it's GP heritage, and those who view it as an emblem of sedate maturity object in some degree to it being considered anything but a standard.
I guess it's sort of like being informed one has Neanderthal DNA; we all have it, but admitting it is very troubling, lol.
I guess it's sort of like being informed one has Neanderthal DNA; we all have it, but admitting it is very troubling, lol.
05-04-2016, 06:32 AM
Well, I think that statement was a lot truer in 1969 (or more accurately 1979 when talking the I-4 DOHC engines) than it is today, since the GP bikes of today only have a name badge in common with today's street bike. so I guess you could say this is a 1979 equivalent sport bike, although even the same displacement bike in 1983 made a lot more horsepower than this one does.
If you read the design criteria from Honda for this bike they did not design it to be a sport bike
http://world.honda.com/design/designers-...100/page2/
Quote from the article:
"Built on Honda's motorcycle origins. Polished to perfection
Although it offers a sporty ride, the CB1100 is not a sport bike. It's a great motorcycle to take on a tour, but it's not a tourer or a cruiser. Despite how good it feels to zip around town on the CB1100, it's not a street bike, either. Focused only on the elements that make a motorcycle a motorcycle, we built the CB1100 on the origins of Honda's motorcycles and polished it to perfection. The result is an archetypal "cool bike."
It's a bike that requires no big "Let's ride!" occasion or attitude. Rather, you can simply think, "The weather is nice—where shall I go?" and take your CB1100 for an easygoing spin. It's a bike that will soon become a trusted friend and ally."
and again, as I've said many times already, there is no problem running this engine to redline, either occasionally, or all the time for that matter. Engines are designed to run within a certain " range " and the range on this bike is from 2500-8000 rpms. It's ok to run this bike in any gear between those rpms (although it is electronically rpm limited in certain gears meaning you will not be able to run it at 8000 rpms in certain gears) but other than that, it will not harm this motor to run it anywhere between those rpms and it's not " better" for it to run it at any given rpm than another rpm in that range
If you read the design criteria from Honda for this bike they did not design it to be a sport bike
http://world.honda.com/design/designers-...100/page2/
Quote from the article:
"Built on Honda's motorcycle origins. Polished to perfection
Although it offers a sporty ride, the CB1100 is not a sport bike. It's a great motorcycle to take on a tour, but it's not a tourer or a cruiser. Despite how good it feels to zip around town on the CB1100, it's not a street bike, either. Focused only on the elements that make a motorcycle a motorcycle, we built the CB1100 on the origins of Honda's motorcycles and polished it to perfection. The result is an archetypal "cool bike."
It's a bike that requires no big "Let's ride!" occasion or attitude. Rather, you can simply think, "The weather is nice—where shall I go?" and take your CB1100 for an easygoing spin. It's a bike that will soon become a trusted friend and ally."
and again, as I've said many times already, there is no problem running this engine to redline, either occasionally, or all the time for that matter. Engines are designed to run within a certain " range " and the range on this bike is from 2500-8000 rpms. It's ok to run this bike in any gear between those rpms (although it is electronically rpm limited in certain gears meaning you will not be able to run it at 8000 rpms in certain gears) but other than that, it will not harm this motor to run it anywhere between those rpms and it's not " better" for it to run it at any given rpm than another rpm in that range
05-04-2016, 06:51 AM
I saw Freddie Spencer race several times at Loudon, NH in the early 80's. One race that stands out was the Superbike race in 1981, it ran while it poured rain cats and dogs and howling wind. Freddie lapped the entire field, crashes, everybody passes him, he gets back up and passes EVERYBODY AGAIN, (except Eddie Lawson on the Kawasaki) and finished in 2nd.
05-04-2016, 07:25 AM
(05-04-2016, 06:32 AM)The ferret_imp Wrote: [ -> ]Well, I think that statement was a lot truer in 1969 (or more accurately 1979 when talking the I-4 DOHC engines) than it is today, since the GP bikes of today only have a name badge in common with today's street bike. so I guess you could say this is a 1979 equivalent sport bike, although even the same displacement bike in 1983 made a lot more horsepower than this one does.But I feel that way about all my bikes. Most of all, the 2015 ZX-10R, which fits me like a glove and is more of a touring bike than the CB1100. Big engine, big power, comfy, easy handling. True story. Must be my Neanderthal DNA.
If you read the design criteria from Honda for this bike they did not design it to be a sport bike
http://world.honda.com/design/designers-...100/page2/
Quote from the article:
"Built on Honda's motorcycle origins. Polished to perfection
Although it offers a sporty ride, the CB1100 is not a sport bike. It's a great motorcycle to take on a tour, but it's not a tourer or a cruiser. Despite how good it feels to zip around town on the CB1100, it's not a street bike, either. Focused only on the elements that make a motorcycle a motorcycle, we built the CB1100 on the origins of Honda's motorcycles and polished it to perfection. The result is an archetypal "cool bike."
It's a bike that requires no big "Let's ride!" occasion or attitude. Rather, you can simply think, "The weather is nice—where shall I go?" and take your CB1100 for an easygoing spin. It's a bike that will soon become a trusted friend and ally."
and again, as I've said many times already, there is no problem running this engine to redline, either occasionally, or all the time for that matter. Engines are designed to run within a certain " range " and the range on this bike is from 2500-8000 rpms. It's ok to run this bike in any gear between those rpms (although it is electronically rpm limited in certain gears meaning you will not be able to run it at 8000 rpms in certain gears) but other than that, it will not harm this motor to run it anywhere between those rpms and it's not " better" for it to run it at any given rpm than another rpm in that range
05-05-2016, 08:33 AM
I agree Honda needs to get their act together and have a naked standard category. I've had plenty of people call it a sport bike though I correct them. I like the term "Vintage/Modern Standard". Cause that is what this bike really is a vintage looking machine with modern performance with a standard riding position.
05-05-2016, 01:05 PM
(05-05-2016, 08:33 AM)holy666diver_imp Wrote: [ -> ]I agree Honda needs to get their act together and have a naked standard category. I've had plenty of people call it a sport bike though I correct them. I like the term "Vintage/Modern Standard". Cause that is what this bike really is a vintage looking machine with modern performance with a standard riding position.Well, I would never actually TELL anyone it is a sport bike. Especially the guy I followed going down that fast mountain road who was riding a KTM 1190 Adventure. But it felt pretty sporty at the time.