10-26-2015, 10:20 PM
An outstanding review of the race by David Emmett at MotoMatters. Comments are well worth reading too.
https://motomatters.com/analysis/2015/10...who_h.html
https://motomatters.com/analysis/2015/10...who_h.html
10-26-2015, 10:20 PM
10-26-2015, 10:31 PM
Nice video. Carefully put together.
The caption says (I think):
Quote:Video telescoping Marquez: What happened before the fall
The online magazine PuroMotor.com analyzed all the moments that led to the fall of Marquez and many provocations of the Spaniard. The video that engages and exonerates instead Rossi
Google translate says the comments on screen say:
1. Marquez forcibly closes the entry angle
2. Marquez takes Rossi to the edge of the track
3. Marquez closes out the angle to Rossi
4. Marquez again closes the angle on Rossi and hits his arm and helmet
5. Rossi lost his footing and stares at Marquez. Rossi apparently reacts to Marquez driving
6. Rossi closes the angle to pin Marquez and loses again
7. Rossi challenges Marquez and his team do not like what he sees
8. Marquez takes Rossi to the edge of the track
9. Marquez accelerates sharply towards Rossi's bike
10. Rossi slows and turns to look at Marquez
... Marquez corrected, but the speed is to slow to exit ...
... Marquez bears weight on his leg and Rossi moves his knee to remove ...
I apologise for any errors in the translation. I am relying on Google Translate. I assume the final points assert that Marquez leaned on Rossi and Rossi moved his knee to push Marquez off.
Good piece, CB4ME. Thanks for sharing.
The caption says (I think):
Quote:Video telescoping Marquez: What happened before the fall
The online magazine PuroMotor.com analyzed all the moments that led to the fall of Marquez and many provocations of the Spaniard. The video that engages and exonerates instead Rossi
Google translate says the comments on screen say:
1. Marquez forcibly closes the entry angle
2. Marquez takes Rossi to the edge of the track
3. Marquez closes out the angle to Rossi
4. Marquez again closes the angle on Rossi and hits his arm and helmet
5. Rossi lost his footing and stares at Marquez. Rossi apparently reacts to Marquez driving
6. Rossi closes the angle to pin Marquez and loses again
7. Rossi challenges Marquez and his team do not like what he sees
8. Marquez takes Rossi to the edge of the track
9. Marquez accelerates sharply towards Rossi's bike
10. Rossi slows and turns to look at Marquez
... Marquez corrected, but the speed is to slow to exit ...
... Marquez bears weight on his leg and Rossi moves his knee to remove ...
I apologise for any errors in the translation. I am relying on Google Translate. I assume the final points assert that Marquez leaned on Rossi and Rossi moved his knee to push Marquez off.
Good piece, CB4ME. Thanks for sharing.
10-27-2015, 12:17 AM
Great read CB4ME, thanks for the link
10-27-2015, 02:17 AM
(10-27-2015, 12:17 AM)The ferret_imp Wrote: [ -> ]Great read CB4ME, thanks for the link
+1 CB4ME, excellent read.
10-27-2015, 04:27 AM
It's sounds like there were some very colorful words spoken by each other in the after the race meeting according to the article, sure wish I was a fly on the wall, might of learned a new one or two. I need to reread that article, I'm thinking Rossi might have been wronged on this or a least a shared responsibility with Marquez?
10-27-2015, 08:56 AM
The Motomatters article seems, at least to me, balanced. The thing that sticks in my craw is Rossi's clearly inappropriate (and illegal) action being regarded as appropriate. To quote Motomatters, "He had not been trying deliberately to make Márquez crash, Rossi said. But it was equally clear that it was an inevitable consequence of his actions". If Dorna approves of this for commercial advantage, as some suggest, it is the first step upon their primrose path to perdition. We may well look forward to a two wheeled Thunderdome with the howling masses showing little interest in real motorcycle racing. Clearly, there are some who enjoy that form of entertainment.
An Italian article defending Rossi? No surprise there. In saying that I refer to comments made by Cormanus regarding the poor behaviour of some elite athletes and the tolerance often shown to that behaviour. It's not an exclusively Italian disease. In our own little backwater downunder we aren't immune to this spreading canker. For instance, judging by a good proportion of social media opinion, as well as some of the fringe dwellers of mainstream journalism, a number of our countrymen approve of the behaviour displayed by a couple of our young Aussi tennis players. I may be old fashioned but their antics make me ashamed to be Australian. No, I've got that wrong. Their antics make me ashamed that they are Australian.
If Valencia provides Rossi, or Lorenzo, with a World Championship attained by hard, fair and no quarter given riding by all competitors then that will be as good as it can get. Bring it on.
Cheers
An Italian article defending Rossi? No surprise there. In saying that I refer to comments made by Cormanus regarding the poor behaviour of some elite athletes and the tolerance often shown to that behaviour. It's not an exclusively Italian disease. In our own little backwater downunder we aren't immune to this spreading canker. For instance, judging by a good proportion of social media opinion, as well as some of the fringe dwellers of mainstream journalism, a number of our countrymen approve of the behaviour displayed by a couple of our young Aussi tennis players. I may be old fashioned but their antics make me ashamed to be Australian. No, I've got that wrong. Their antics make me ashamed that they are Australian.
If Valencia provides Rossi, or Lorenzo, with a World Championship attained by hard, fair and no quarter given riding by all competitors then that will be as good as it can get. Bring it on.
Cheers
10-30-2015, 04:19 AM
10-30-2015, 06:59 AM
Valentino has filed an appeal with a decision due from the FIM by the Saturday of race weekend. He's asking for an annulment or reduction in the penalty and he's also asking for a stay of the decision. Dropping one point would prevent him front starting last. What are the odds he'll gain relief?
10-30-2015, 01:34 PM
(10-30-2015, 04:19 AM)The ferret_imp Wrote: [ -> ]You guys have to watch this...too funny
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0sCbJCDHVpg
Who knew?10-30-2015, 08:45 PM