Where to tap speed sensor signal?

[SportsterDoc]

I'm going to tap the pink/white wire off the rear wheel sensor later this afternoon and hope for no puffs of smoke from the ecu, power commander, dash, etc...

I do keep a fire extinguisher in my garage!
(but, I only used one at home once, for a carb issue)

Be interesting to know the voltage range.

 

[egleaves_imp]

Not yet. I spent too much time doing other things this weekend. Now I'm interested in hearing the results of PowerDubs stab at this wire before I mess with mine.

 

[SportsterDoc]

Not yet. I spent too much time doing other things this weekend. Now I'm interested in hearing the results of PowerDubs stab at this wire before I mess with mine.

So, you are admitting that PowerDubs is braver?!

 

[PowerDubs_imp]

Local hardware store didn't have any posi-tap or comparable.

Placed an order from Amazon- experimentation will have to wait a couple days.

Sorry.

Here is what I am trying to do-

 

[egleaves_imp]

Not yet. I spent too much time doing other things this weekend. Now I'm interested in hearing the results of PowerDubs stab at this wire before I mess with mine.

So, you are admitting that PowerDubs is braver?!

So, you are admitting that PowerDubs is braver?!
Many people are braver than me when it comes to electrical work. I'm much better at being a plumber.

 

[SportsterDoc]

Not yet. I spent too much time doing other things this weekend. Now I'm interested in hearing the results of PowerDubs stab at this wire before I mess with mine.

So, you are admitting that PowerDubs is braver?!

So, you are admitting that PowerDubs is braver?!
Many people are braver than me when it comes to electrical work. I'm much better at being a plumber.

Humor response award to you!

I hate plumbing...dealing with leaks...much rather keep the smoke inside the insulation!

 

[PowerDubs_imp]

I'm no electrician. I'm much more mechanical in nature.

I have zero fear of mechanical things, and zero mechanical sympathy.

Makes for interesting hobbies when I have a lift in my garage.

12 cylinders are fun. I'm just not rich enough for a Veyron.

 

[PowerDubs_imp]

Tapped into the white on the rear speed sensor (changes to green/pink under side cover.)

Put my meter on it, dcv setting, other lead grounded to a screw. Started bike on center stand and put it in first. No reading.

Thoughts?


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[peterbaron]

My schematic, after 2013, NO ABS

:exclamation: ASSUME there is NO carbon wire sealed to connector's end.:exclamation::exclamation::exclamation:.
What is the DC voltage reading to OEM connector of RWSS = 2 pin connector - blue and white- back-probed, rear wheel spinning in a gear, while speedo showing speed...voltage will vary while speed changes, please

What are you talking about other lead grounded to a screw..what SCREW?????????
Do you have any electrical knowledge???

 

[Cormanus]

Tapped into the white on the rear speed sensor (changes to green/pink under side cover.)

Put my meter on it, dcv setting, other lead grounded to a screw. Started bike on center stand and put it in first. No reading.

Thoughts?


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You need a new meter?

 

[Lord Popgun]

First I’d try the blue. The white goes to the -
If you don’t get anything, I can put an o-scope on it and see what the pulses look like (yes Max, I bought one just for this stuff).

THIS—I would also suggest that the meter be connected to both wires. Not ground and one wire.

On outboards, when looking at the triggers you have to use a DVA adapter (direct volt amps) that plug into a Fluke DVOM. It actually just a little integrater circuit, a cap, a diode and a resister). The cap has a SLOW discharge time through the resistor so the pulse voltage will charge up the cap as the pulses come in directly to it, and give a voltage reading. Might need something like that on this. So, TLDR, cap has a fast charge time, slow discharge time. Thus, a voltage builds up that the meter displays. RC time and all

 

[peterbaron]

Tapped into the white on the rear speed sensor (changes to green/pink under side cover.)

Put my meter on it, dcv setting, other lead grounded to a screw. Started bike on center stand and put it in first. No reading.

Thoughts?


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You need a new meter?

You need a new meter?
Cormanus, you are great...I love jokes ..:rofl:

Not yet. I spent too much time doing other things this weekend. Now I'm interested in hearing the results of PowerDubs stab at this wire before I mess with mine.

So, you are admitting that PowerDubs is braver?!

So, you are admitting that PowerDubs is braver?!
Many people are braver than me when it comes to electrical work. I'm much better at being a plumber.

Humor response award to you!

I hate plumbing...dealing with leaks...much rather keep the smoke inside the insulation!

Humor response award to you!

I hate plumbing...dealing with leaks...much rather keep the smoke inside the insulation!
:clap::clap::clap::clap::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::banana::celebrate::excited:..LOVE these statements
...........................:worship: .................................

 

[Lord Popgun]

Cormanus, New meter is funny.

Since neither wire is connected to chassis ground, the fact that he got no reading is not unexpected.

 

[peterbaron]

Cormanus, New meter is funny.

Since neither wire is connected to chassis ground, the fact that he got no reading is not unexpected.

+1...unless he has a magic screw...lol...
Hey, this is not meant to insult anybody...we need to joke around and laugh as we get bit older

P.S. Popgan and I have a DVON with a twin propeller...if meter stars overheating, a temperature sensor triggers one or both fans...one cools off the meter itself, while the other the overheated circuit...but not everyone can have this meter , right Popgan

:beerchug:

 

[max]

Josh i like the enthusiasm, well done and welcome to the world of electrical signals.

sorry, my story picked the wrong wire, have to learn to read before posting too quick.


Yougoddascope popgun?:beerchug:

 

[Lord Popgun]

Max, no way was I going into all that. Josh is getting deep into experimenting here. Maybe it uses Manchester II Bi-phase. I doubt it, I just like saying Manchester II Bi-phase. And Mil-std 1553... or wait, maybe Non Return to Zero. Naaa.

Peter, I don’t have one of those! Need one! Of course, real old time techs like the Simpson 260. No, not the new ones with plastic cases—the old ones in Bakelite cases. Love those things. DVOM just have a so much highter impedance they are much better for most things. I have a few Flukes I use at home. And Flukes at work.

 

[peterbaron]

General info::

WSS is active IC hall type sensor and good at temperature and noise characteristic. Digital waveform is produced as tone wheel rotate according as hall sensor principal. Frequency of waveform is change in proportion to rotation of tone wheel and ECU calculate vehicle speed by this frequency
The ECU monitors WSS circuit continuously. Hi - Low voltage = 1.05 - 0.525 V
A direct current is supplied to the WSS by a power source in the input amplifier of the control unit.
In order to protect WSS when measuring output voltage a resistor must be used...(75 Ohms ???? if I am correct)
Do you really think that regular voltmeter will be useful????

Agree with Popgun, Max and SportsterDoc, Josh, stop experimenting = I am deadly serious. I don't even know if you should follow installation instruction of the electronic gizmo you bought. I really don't = have no judgement.

 

[Lord Popgun]

I don’t really understand the need for a 75ohm resister when even a cheap Fluke DVOM has a greater than 10Mohm imput impedance.

 

[peterbaron]

No problem with Fluke, you are right Popgun ..just do not know what Josh is using..and my info was general

 

[PowerDubs_imp]

Huh?

I’m going to need to post my greek picture again.

Read post #44 above for what I am trying to do.

Seems a lot of other brand and models of bikes are using the analog input for the gear setting.

Everything I have read said I should be looking for a 0-5v.

So as you guys mentioned above I tapped the green/pink with the red lead, black to a chassis frame screw for ground, dcv setting since I am on a vehicle and not in my house 120v ac.

Yea- I have no idea. What am I missing? Please reference post 44 above. I’m going to bed. Will check back tomorrow. Thanks!!


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