Trade a '13 for a '14 EX? How much will it cost?

[cbdtran_imp]

6K is a realistic cost for trading up considering tax and registration loss / cost of both bikes

 

[The Spaceman_imp]

When I sold Harleys at the Bruce Rossmeyer dealership, trade-ins were always the most difficult deals. I'd write up the deal on a worksheet with the customer's bike and our bike, take it to the sales manager for final pricing, and then go back to my desk and enrage the customer when they saw the numbers. Buyers came in thinking the thousands of dollars in chrome and accessories they added would count, or that we'd offer the price they saw their bike listed for online, or that we'd offer KBB or NADA retail instead of the much lower trade-in prices.

I don't think there's a worse value scenario than trading a 2013 for a 2014, regardless of if it's a bike, a car, or a boat.

 

[the Ferret]

6K is a realistic cost for trading up considering tax and registration loss / cost of both bikes

Yea, I wouldn't take $6 K for mine from a dealer or a private buyer

When I sold Harleys at the Bruce Rossmeyer dealership, trade-ins were always the most difficult deals. I'd write up the deal on a worksheet with the customer's bike and our bike, take it to the sales manager for final pricing, and then go back to my desk and enrage the customer when they saw the numbers. Buyers came in thinking the thousands of dollars in chrome and accessories they added would count, or that we'd offer the price they saw their bike listed for online, or that we'd offer KBB or NADA retail instead of the much lower trade-in prices.

I don't think there's a worse value scenario than trading a 2013 for a 2014, regardless of if it's a bike, a car, or a boat.

It would surely be a bath.. And could only happen if you could afford the bath

but I wouldn't trade used wholesale to new retail..it would have to be retail to retail or wholesale to wholesale

 

[ride4now_imp]

I like, and can deal with, 3.... One adventure style road/dirt bike...
One highway tourer... And one an all around fun, sporty, around town bike.
The 3 I have right now fit that bill well.

 

[CB1100dan_imp]

Kinda sad to not do your research before you made a 10,000 dollar purchase. You should have known about the 5 speed, although unless you drive at 80+ mph all day and in that case you need a sport bike, I have a 2010 Z1000, a five speed is just fine. As for the pipes, if you didn't like the look why did you buy the CB. I love the ride, I know why Honda made the bike, its not a sport bike, and I Love the look. But, I did do my research...

 

[rboe]

Most of us, if not all of us, bought the CB1100 before there was any inkling of a 2014 bike and of course no one had any clue about the "upgrades".

Or we would have waited. At the risk of this bike being a one year wonder like the 1983 CB1100F.

I fully intended to sell off as surplus my Moto Guzzi Griso once I got the CB; but the bikes are soooo different there is no way now. In fact, I was going to buy the CB but got the Griso instead when Honda dragged their heals on introducing it. Guess I need to win the lottery.

 

[Robo_imp]

Kinda sad to not do your research before you made a 10,000 dollar purchase. You should have known about the 5 speed, although unless you drive at 80+ mph all day and in that case you need a sport bike, I have a 2010 Z1000, a five speed is just fine. As for the pipes, if you didn't like the look why did you buy the CB. I love the ride, I know why Honda made the bike, its not a sport bike, and I Love the look. But, I did do my research...

I am pretty sure that the EX and Deluxe versions of the CB1100 were probably announced after his purchase. Not sure how any research would have revealed that a different version of the bike with features he would want would be available at a later date.

 

[ride4now_imp]

You know... research or not (and I did a lot...), there was no inkling that an EX was coming
with all the enhancements. I bought the bike because I wanted a version of an old
CB750 which in June was brand new and exciting. I like the bike and yes, the decision to purchase was emotional... A bad choice? No. But Honda
came out with a better one this year. I guess I could have taken a chance and waited... but wait for what? A hope and a prayer?

 

[the Ferret]

For me, its not a single upgrade that tears at my heart, its the upgrades in their entirety. The 4 into 2 pipes with actual double wall chromed head pipes, the instrumentation with the gear indicator, the differently patterened seat, then add in the 1" higher bars, the 6 speed trans, the larger capacity fuel tank.

Believe me I researched this bike for 3 years, and ordered it before my dealer even knew it was available. Most of us that desired the bike figured this might be a one shot deal and like Rboe said a one year model. It was discussed at length here.

Believe me had i know or had an inkling that there would be an upgraded model only 1 year later, I'd have waited. Then I would have had a choice, the original sporty model or the upgraded model.

 

[ride4now_imp]

For me, its not a single upgrade that tears at my heart, its the upgrades in their entirety. The 4 into 2 pipes with actual double wall chromed head pipes, the instrumentation with the gear indicator, the differently patterened seat, then add in the 1" higher bars, the 6 speed trans, the larger capacity fuel tank.

Believe me I researched this bike for 3 years, and ordered it before my dealer even knew it was available. Most of us that desired the bike figured this might be a one shot deal and like Rboe said a one year model. It was discussed at length here.

Believe me had i know or had an inkling that there would be an upgraded model only 1 year later, I'd have waited. Then I would have had a choice, the original sporty model or the upgraded model.

Amen brother... Well said!

 

[Elipten_imp]

The reality is we are not in control of what product comes from Honda. You buy a product weather an iPhone, iPad and etc if it meets your current needs/desires and price point. If a new comes one has to evaluate the reward versus cost. I for one love my 2013. I'll change components to make it mine. If the 2014 was in a color I wanted badly or had some feature I could not live without I pay them or get a second bike. Of course who knows what 2015 will hold? Why did some markets get white, or black or blue? Who knows the logic but I am sure Mr. T for a price can solve the issue. My CB1100 has got me jazzed about bikes again, allowed me to take my old BMW down for a rebuild, and fills a need that the BMW could not fill. Heck when the BMW is off the lift , I'm going to get the 1970 CB 750 that my buddy has given me and restore it. If had wanted the CB 750 I could have gotten it. I wanted a bike like the old CB but was not a project bike that I could rimed every day, be reliable, and suffer with getting parts until it becomes a collector item.

Enjoy what you have, change it as required to make it work or make you happy, or buy another. Life is short, enjoy, ride and stop thinking about the next model year.


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[CB1100dan_imp]

I guess what I am saying is, you either like this bike or you didn't, if you needed a six speed and a larger tank and four into two pipes and higher bars and a different seat and double wall headers and so on and so on..... Maybe you should have bought a different motorcycle. As for me, that's why I own a 10 State line, a Z1000 and a 76 CB550f. One bike will never fill the bill for all types of riding, heck, two or three bikes will not fill the bill. As we speak, I am eyeing a Husqvarna TR650 Terra... Another bike for another type of riding. And for those of you that claim you did research... You had better start doing research at real motorcycle shows... All of these upgrades, I heard about from the Honda reps last year in long beach... And I still wanted the 13 CB. And so I bought it. No regrets, sour grapes or complaints... I now have 3500 miles on it and its hard for me to not smile every time I think about that multi-flaud little red mistake Honda made... Maybe they can screw up a 2015 CBX... I'll buy that too...

 

[thumper_imp]

I guess what I am saying is, you either like this bike or you didn't, if you needed a six speed and a larger tank and four into two pipes and higher bars and a different seat and double wall headers and so on and so on..... Maybe you should have bought a different motorcycle. As for me, that's why I own a 10 State line, a Z1000 and a 76 CB550f. One bike will never fill the bill for all types of riding, heck, two or three bikes will not fill the bill. As we speak, I am eyeing a Husqvarna TR650 Terra... Another bike for another type of riding. And for those of you that claim you did research... You had better start doing research at real motorcycle shows... All of these upgrades, I heard about from the Honda reps last year in long beach... And I still wanted the 13 CB. And so I bought it. No regrets, sour grapes or complaints... I now have 3500 miles on it and its hard for me to not smile every time I think about that multi-flaud little red mistake Honda made... Maybe they can screw up a 2015 CBX... I'll buy that too...

Um, wow. :dodgy:

 

[Bayoucityrider_imp]

Interesting thread. I was actually going to start one that talks about the value of our bikes but i see that would be useless at this point. The market varies of course depending on where you are at but down here in Houston the current trade value would be about 5-5.5k. The dealer would retail the bike around 7500.00. Most dealers want about 2-2.5k buffer on most of there used units. I just got off the phone with one of my honda dealers and asked if the 14ex was coming state side and he stated he asked the honda Rep that very same question about a month ago and the rep said NO.I am a little dissapointed that the value of our bikes have dropped as much as it has. This is a niche bike. A very cool niche bike but one none the less. I think Honda over estimated the potential sales of this bike in the U.S. market. I recently did a search in cycle trader within a 100 mile radius of my zip and about 10 new ones popped up. The dealer i just talked to said there still quite a few available in honda's wherehouse. I dont think the 14ex will be here anytime soon so i would enjoy this great machine as it is and what it was meant for. Plus,there is so much you can do personalize it. You can cafe it,set it up for light touring or commuting with windshields and bags or whatever works for you. Its all good. Just post pics so we can see all your upgrades.

 

[the Ferret]

I guess what I am saying is, you either like this bike or you didn't, if you needed a six speed and a larger tank and four into two pipes and higher bars and a different seat and double wall headers and so on and so on..... Maybe you should have bought a different motorcycle. As for me, that's why I own a 10 State line, a Z1000 and a 76 CB550f. One bike will never fill the bill for all types of riding, heck, two or three bikes will not fill the bill. As we speak, I am eyeing a Husqvarna TR650 Terra... Another bike for another type of riding. And for those of you that claim you did research... You had better start doing research at real motorcycle shows... All of these upgrades, I heard about from the Honda reps last year in long beach... And I still wanted the 13 CB. And so I bought it. No regrets, sour grapes or complaints... I now have 3500 miles on it and its hard for me to not smile every time I think about that multi-flaud little red mistake Honda made... Maybe they can screw up a 2015 CBX... I'll buy that too...

Um, wow. :dodgy:

Um, wow. :dodgy:

Dan, are you telling us that prior to November 2012 when Honda announced that this bike was finally being imported (and when many of us placed our orders for our 2013 models) that Honda reps were talking about an upgraded model coming in 2014?

As far as I know that was not reported anywhere, and that surely would have been big news.

 

[Guth_imp]

Just look at the threads around this place a few weeks back. Collectively as a group, we still didn't know what might, or might not be headed our way this year as far as the CB1100 was concerned.

Also, it's one thing to be dissatisfied with a product, but to want a different product even more doesn't necessarily mean that a person isn't happy with what they bought. We all have different preferences. For many, the 2013 model was the best thing going back when it was released. Now for some, the 2014 Deluxe model will supplant the 2013 offering as the bike that comes the closest to their ideal. That doesn't strike me as being all that difficult to understand. I hope that everyone out there who is pining for a 2014 model is able to find a way to make it happen. Especially if that means selling or trading in a 2013 model. The more CB1100s out there being ridden, the better.

 

[Dale_imp]

As others have inferred on this thread, trading in any motor vehicle is the most expensive way to get rid of one and buy another one. Dealers always look at this proposition as a "double-ender" as in making money on both. You end up selling wholesale and buying retail. It's certainly convenient in that you can drive in with your old model, do some paperwork and then drive out with the new one but you pay dearly for the convenience. Better to sell privately then go make your best deal on the new one.

 

[rboe]

I guess what I am saying is, you either like this bike or you didn't, if you needed a six speed and a larger tank and four into two pipes and higher bars and a different seat and double wall headers and so on and so on..... Maybe you should have bought a different motorcycle.

Well. I can only guess the other guys liked the bike because, like me, they put their money where their mouth (and heart) was. It hit a lot of the right buttons. For some of us further work was needed to make "perfect". Let's face it, Honda tapped the keg of ideas with this bike and things like the White House bike came forth. Since we're all a wee bit different with a slightly different set of hot buttons (spoked wheels, four into four, four into two, windscreens - fairings, color etc.) and this bike hit many of them - but not all of them. How could it? We all prioritize our hot buttons differently and the Deluxe/EX hits a different set. But Honda is having some fun by making their own "custom" version of the CB1100.

Naturally; some features became desirable only after using the bike for a while so naturally we all wanted to improve things. Who knew Honda would do it so soon after letting the bike into the US market?

So I reserve the right to whine and wring my hands.

 

[Tripod_imp]

Just look at the threads around this place a few weeks back. Collectively as a group, we still didn't know what might, or might not be headed our way this year as far as the CB1100 was concerned.

Also, it's one thing to be dissatisfied with a product, but to want a different product even more doesn't necessarily mean that a person isn't happy with what they bought. We all have different preferences. For many, the 2013 model was the best thing going back when it was released. Now for some, the 2014 Deluxe model will supplant the 2013 offering as the bike that comes the closest to their ideal. That doesn't strike me as being all that difficult to understand. I hope that everyone out there who is pining for a 2014 model is able to find a way to make it happen. Especially if that means selling or trading in a 2013 model. The more CB1100s out there being ridden, the better.

Well said...:beerchug:

 

[cbdtran_imp]

For me, its not a single upgrade that tears at my heart, its the upgrades in their entirety. The 4 into 2 pipes with actual double wall chromed head pipes, the instrumentation with the gear indicator, the differently patterened seat, then add in the 1" higher bars, the 6 speed trans, the larger capacity fuel tank.

Believe me I researched this bike for 3 years, and ordered it before my dealer even knew it was available. Most of us that desired the bike figured this might be a one shot deal and like Rboe said a one year model. It was discussed at length here.

Believe me had i know or had an inkling that there would be an upgraded model only 1 year later, I'd have waited. Then I would have had a choice, the original sporty model or the upgraded model.

I might wait for few yrs and trade mine for used Deluxe model as long as it is RED, no spokes, no ABS in similar condition (pristine.) We are like a bunch of kids .. new toys ... new toys ... when the old toy is not used enough.