Thinking of a new gadget...

Csory is there a better point to sense the voltdrop ( like close to the "relay" or in the headlight unit ? ) and can you not try an external in-line filter close to that supply point to mittigate noise?

Or grab the supply from both front indicators ( orange and blue ) with two diodes, that should give a good rise and sink of several volts and still enough for the 5 or 3.3v on board regulator supply since they are on low all the time.
 
max_imp said:
Csory is there a better point to sense the voltdrop ( like close to the "relay" or in the headlight unit ? ) and can you not try an external in-line filter close to that supply point to mittigate noise?

Or grab the supply from both front indicators ( orange and blue ) with two diodes, that should give a good rise and sink of several volts and still enough for the 5 or 3.3v on board regulator supply since they are on low all the time.
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Hall-effect sensors behaviour will likely still be erratic.

Some carefully provisioned shielding may improve hall-effect behaviour, but now already talking about a new project.
 
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Max: Yes, close to the relay should be better for sensing voltage drop. However, I'm pretty sure that it would be practically undetectable both because of the electromagnetic noise generated by the ignition system, and because of the generator "overpowering" it.

Your second tip would be the right way to go - patch into both the left and right indicator cables, unify the signal with two diodes and use that as a separate input for the BikeGadget. However, that requires a redesign of the circuit board and also a new 5-wire harness. Alternatively, (and if I understand correctly, this is what you meant) I could come up with some sort of a "piggyback" module to be hooked into the indicator circuits and also the +12V wire of the BikeGadget, and somehow "encode" the indicator status into that +12V input.

Eventually, I'll provide one of these solutions - for now, just working on sending out the first units as per the original specs to those who were interested :D
 
You know Csory, if you are going to work at the "signal detectors" in a subsequent project, you might as well expand it to intervene and also self-cancel the signals too.

I believe a product already exists and posted here at the Forum this year (a Czech product??). Anyway, just thinking aloud.
 
If I weren't so stingy, I'd think about installing one. Seems like a great idea to me.
 
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Cormanus: thanks for the link! Not being able to download an installation manual I can only guess how the device copes with the mechanically locked nature of the original turn signal switch. (My guess: it doesn't...) I.e. one will still have to manually cancel the signal by pressing the button, and only after that can be used again for the same direction. Manufacturers should really replace these locking switches with pushbuttons and go with fully electronic "blinker relays"...
 
Csory_imp said:
Cormanus: thanks for the link! Not being able to download an installation manual I can only guess how the device copes with the mechanically locked nature of the original turn signal switch. (My guess: it doesn't...) I.e. one will still have to manually cancel the signal by pressing the button, and only after that can be used again for the same direction. Manufacturers should really replace these locking switches with pushbuttons and go with fully electronic "blinker relays"...
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Looking at a review on YouTube, it looks as though you have to insert two tiny foam buffers within the handlebar switch that prevent the switch latching to either left or right. This allows the unit's electronics to control the "off" point.
 
I'll tell you, I really like my beeper system.. simple to install .. just find the right spot to attach the beeper.. I am a little hard of hearing, so I mounted it on the handlebars.. I had self cancelling ones on many of my goldwings.. when I would exit a freeway, I would turn my signal on a little early to give drivers more of a notice because of the speed we were traveling at.. the exit I take often, has to be exited from the fast lane, the offramp is to the left... the self cancelling ones needed to be activated more than once seeing they would shut off prematurely ..

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Bazbro_imp said:
Csory_imp said:
Cormanus: thanks for the link! Not being able to download an installation manual I can only guess how the device copes with the mechanically locked nature of the original turn signal switch. (My guess: it doesn't...) I.e. one will still have to manually cancel the signal by pressing the button, and only after that can be used again for the same direction. Manufacturers should really replace these locking switches with pushbuttons and go with fully electronic "blinker relays"...
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Looking at a review on YouTube, it looks as though you have to insert two tiny foam buffers within the handlebar switch that prevent the switch latching to either left or right. This allows the unit's electronics to control the "off" point.
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Hahh, foam buffers! So they turn it into two pushbuttons in the end... Got it.
Chuckk_imp said:
I'll tell you, I really like my beeper system.. simple to install .. just find the right spot to attach the beeper.. I am a little hard of hearing, so I mounted it on the handlebars.. I had self cancelling ones on many of my goldwings.. when I would exit a freeway, I would turn my signal on a little early to give drivers more of a notice because of the speed we were traveling at.. the exit I take often, has to be exited from the fast lane, the offramp is to the left... the self cancelling ones needed to be activated more than once seeing they would shut off prematurely ..

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My concern exactly... There are scenarios when you'd rather NOT want it to be self-cancelling. Same with cars: maneuvering around in parking lots, traffic circles etc. requires (sometimes more than once) re-switching of the turn indicators.
 
I hadn't thought of that, Csory. That means, although the indicator may have stopped flashing, one still has to press the switch before turning in the same direction as the most recent turn?

I might just stick with the tried-and-true method of leaving mine on until I have to turn the other way. Rinse and repeat. :D
 
Chuckk_imp said:
the thought arises.. God !! how long have I been riding with that thing on ..:s
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Hey Chuckk,
A fews questions about the buzzer.
Is that busier waterproof?
How many decibel is it rated?
Did you use diodes to connect both the left and right signals?

Thanks
Alain
 
I recall I bought it on eBay the seller was in florida.. pandit or something.. here is a video ..https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4GIqoA4hQ0
I have never gotten mine wet.. no diodes with this one.. just watch the video.. easy peasy install.. 95 db .. I tried to get a link for the seller, but couldn't.. not too hard to find on eBay.. 1
$12.95 plus $4.99 shipping (I think).. fast delivery .. good luck ..

chuckk ..
this should be the link

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Audible-mot...eminder-kit-/143216424702?hash=item21585d36fe
the install video is at the bottom of the eBay. offering.. just scroll down to the bottom..
they are water proof/water tight.. they are used on personal watercraft..
 
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