Elipten_imp
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Not sounding too good.
Spark Plugs
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the Ferret
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well they didn't call today either. I showed them to my brother before todays ride, and he looked at them, studied them awhile, and then handed them back to me and said "It's just a crush washer, it will seal, I wouldn't hesitate to use them"
the Ferret
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Lol true, but thats the way my brother is. A factory trained Yamaha mechanic who by nature is just unbelievably mechanically talented. True story... I got my first street bike when I was 15. A two stroke Harley badged Italian Aermacchi. I was in high school and I came home one day from some kind of sports practice to find the top end , head, cylinder, piston, carb, exhaust etc off the bike and scattered about on the driveway. I started yelling and he told me to calm down, he would put it back together again, and he did. He just wanted to see how it worked. He was 12 at the time. If something is broken, and can be fixed, he can fix it, no matter what it is it seems. Electrical, plumbing, welding, construction doesn't matter he can do it. Wish I has a tenth of his abilities.
Elipten_imp
Road warrior
But lucky you that beer is cheap and he is your younger brother. Now those ribber dinner are another matter. So keep the bribe incentive bar low and keep in his good graces.
the Ferret
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redbird, Shinchan what did you guys think and decide?
I never got a call back from the vendor, so today I used their online Customer Service email to ask them their thoughts on the subject. If I hear back from them I will let you know what they say.
I never got a call back from the vendor, so today I used their online Customer Service email to ask them their thoughts on the subject. If I hear back from them I will let you know what they say.
Shinchan_imp
Running like a top
I've decided that I've wasted more than $25 on stupider ideas. In other words, waiting for some other ginea pig to go first.The ferret_imp said:
the Ferret
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:rofl: yea, I hear yaShinchan_imp said:
Carguy1959_imp
Been there
I am on the side of your brother. I have had plenty of cars and replaced plugs in most of them (including my 2004 Ford F-150 5.4, this motor is a spark plug nitemare).You will know right a way if they don't seal. Send me your unwanted plugs and I will put them in my bike.
PowerDubs_imp
Road warrior
I'd be interested in finding a comparable plug but in the design that has 4 prongs. An easy way to up the CR ever so slightly. I can run better gas.. 
Does anyone have any idea what CC the factory chambers are?
Does anyone have any idea what CC the factory chambers are?
the Ferret
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well I asked for guidance and explained what the situation was with the special washers, and what I got back was a form email:
Hello,
We are sorry to hear that the item you purchased will not work for your vehicle.
Please complete the ‘Returns and Exchanges’ form on the reverse side of your packing slip and include this with your unused item. If you no longer have this slip, please write down your name, order number, and reason for returning the item(s) on a blank sheet of paper, and include it in your return shipment.
You can ship this to us at the address below, and we will process your return or exchange.
Sixity Returns
4354 Town Center Blvd Ste 114-124
El Dorado Hills, CA 95762
*Please remember that we have 30 Day Return/Exchange period. If your order was placed over 30 days ago, the total return value will reflect a 15% restocking fee and any original shipping costs.
Please use the original packaging whenever possible and secure it sufficiently to avoid damage in transit.
Thank you for your business and your patience while we get this matter resolved for you.
Hello,
We are sorry to hear that the item you purchased will not work for your vehicle.
Please complete the ‘Returns and Exchanges’ form on the reverse side of your packing slip and include this with your unused item. If you no longer have this slip, please write down your name, order number, and reason for returning the item(s) on a blank sheet of paper, and include it in your return shipment.
You can ship this to us at the address below, and we will process your return or exchange.
Sixity Returns
4354 Town Center Blvd Ste 114-124
El Dorado Hills, CA 95762
*Please remember that we have 30 Day Return/Exchange period. If your order was placed over 30 days ago, the total return value will reflect a 15% restocking fee and any original shipping costs.
Please use the original packaging whenever possible and secure it sufficiently to avoid damage in transit.
Thank you for your business and your patience while we get this matter resolved for you.
Lord Popgun
Road warrior
Would probably have to correspond with NGK to get an answer. If they would give you one.
kennyw
Road warrior
I doubt the re-seller has any knowledge of what they are selling these days.
Redbird_imp
Running like a top
Well, right now I don't know whether I'll keep them or return them before the 30 days is up. But if I don't get on the stick and send them back soon I'll be keeping them for sure!!
the Ferret
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thing is redbird, from what I read on their site, they will refund minus the original free shipping cost. if they say that's $10 or $12, you'll get credit back of $14. Not sure what they consider the initial free shipping charge to be though.
Redbird_imp
Running like a top
Thanks ferret, you know, I think I'll just keep them and try them when the time comes. For sure I have spent more on stuff that turned out not to be "right" over the years.
kennyw
Road warrior
It should not hurt anything to install them. Worst case is they don't seal and you notice a leak.
max
Road warrior
Here's what happened to my plugs and why i think the special washers were installed.
The oil coolers for the spark plugs have no escape channel for any water that may be around the plugs for some reason, it may lead to corrosion and this may be the reason Honda opted for the stainless crushwashers, the plugs themselves are identical but with the washers underneath the survival rate in case of corrosion is likely better.
These were my sparkplugs that had either been washed or sat in the rain with a cold engine ( when i got the bike ).
So if your bike never gets wet.............
Makes sense?
The oil coolers for the spark plugs have no escape channel for any water that may be around the plugs for some reason, it may lead to corrosion and this may be the reason Honda opted for the stainless crushwashers, the plugs themselves are identical but with the washers underneath the survival rate in case of corrosion is likely better.
These were my sparkplugs that had either been washed or sat in the rain with a cold engine ( when i got the bike ).
So if your bike never gets wet.............
Makes sense?
peterbaron
Road warrior
:huh:
As to the plugs:
Do not tinker with substitute, even if it is for free
OEM ONLY...remember problems with K&N oil filters...
Do not want to be a smart a** at all, but Honda engineers are not stupid...they know why
"....The CB 1100 takes special one off spark plugs designed for this bike. Made by NGK they carry the designation LMAR8A-9S Honda part number 31908-MGC-003 and takes QTY 4. The bodies on these plugs are extremely thin as are the threads which are also extremely long at 26.5 MM or just over an inch. The plugs are expensive at $19.99..."
...and these plugs carry appropriate price for their design and quality!
Would you replace OEM with Champions ...:rofl:
I would not ..
pb
As to the plugs:
Do not tinker with substitute, even if it is for free
OEM ONLY...remember problems with K&N oil filters...
Do not want to be a smart a** at all, but Honda engineers are not stupid...they know why
"....The CB 1100 takes special one off spark plugs designed for this bike. Made by NGK they carry the designation LMAR8A-9S Honda part number 31908-MGC-003 and takes QTY 4. The bodies on these plugs are extremely thin as are the threads which are also extremely long at 26.5 MM or just over an inch. The plugs are expensive at $19.99..."
...and these plugs carry appropriate price for their design and quality!
Would you replace OEM with Champions ...:rofl:
I would not ..
pb
