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"I would rather be ashes than dust. I would rather that my spark should burn out in a brilliant blaze than that it should be stifled by dry-rot. I would rather be a superb meteor, every atom of me in magnificent glow, than a sleepy and permanent planet."redbirds_imp said:Interesting read ferret. Have to agree with Rocky and Ulvetanna, riding is too much fun to give up and always try to minimize your risks when you ride. Despite our best efforts, government safety standards, traffic laws and ATGATT, the death rate will remain at 100%. The choice we actually have is whether to die while living or to live while dead.
That's the simple. Those numbers are complex.LongRanger_imp said:Hers what I get out of it:
Of the total fatalities:
28% not licensed
42% single-vehicle accident
38% no helmet
32% over 1400cc
43% on interstate or freeway
30% DUI (43% of single-vehicle were DUI)
55% nighttime fatalities were DUI
Simple message here. Get your endorsement, wear a helmet, don't drink and ride.
Yep. It's a choice.kmoney_imp said:I always find these stats interesting, as they're the underlying basis (or independent variables, if you want to think of it as a regression analysis, as I tend to) of the aggregated "motorcycles are so dangerous stat" people always point to. If you actually filter all the personally avoidable factors, you can see how quickly the safety of motorcycles increases.
Interesting points, and another: The increase in volume and the number of unaware cagers plaguing our roads just raises the odds for everybody.tommymck_imp said:Yep... There are a few things that jump out and a bunch that is left hard to interpret. The stuff about older rider fatalities continuing to increase is likely to do with the percentage of riders who are older today than in the 70s. There is a lot that could have been provided with this data that could add to context and understanding. Showing motorcycle deaths compared to automobile deaths is meaningless unless you know the relative percentage of motorcycle riders compared to automobile drivers. Showing deaths sorted by gender is meaningless unless you know the breakdown of male to female riders.
I always knew that riding is more dangerous than driving. I actually take some comfort though in the fact that if you don't drink and ride at all, you drastically reduce the risk. I'm a pilot (for fun, not work). I follow the same "12 hours from bottle to throttle" rule for riding that I do for flying.
I'd also like to see a breakdown by make and model (with the corresponding data showing percentage of ownership). Sure, there are less under 30 deaths today than in years gone by. But I'd be surprised if as a percentage, the 20-something dudes flying by me at 120mph on a sport bike aren't actually less safe.
Yeah, those have been constants indeed.jimgl3_imp said:got two things from all that:
we baby boomers who ride are getting older
very few states out there with no helmet law
cheers ; )
+1^...GoldOxide_imp said:Easy to repeat the obvious: Motorcycle riding is one of many therapeutic freedoms available that is repeatably accessible on-demand and can be economical while enjoying it.
Compare that to skydiving, deep sea diving, sailing, most vacations, etc. All good, but can take time to plan, wait for, stress over, and recover from. In addition, typically you are never alone.