Oil and filter

[Sonnyboy_imp]

I have a 2014 standard. It is time to do an oil change. Does anyone know one site to get the filter, oil and drain bolt washer that are specific to the bike? Thanks!

 

[LongRanger_imp]

There are many on-line sources. The one I've used for years is Chaparral Motorsports in San Bernadino, CA. I imagine Partzilla would also have what you need -- they're good too.

 

[Houtman_imp]

I bought 20 drain bolt washer from my local Honda dealer for 50 cents each.

 

[Cormanus]

I seem to remember Ferret advising the purchase of the washers from Honda automotive. it's the same part , but they sell for less than half the price.

 

[DJS_imp]

got mine (filter and washers) from amazon.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00PSM...UTF8&psc=1
[url=https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0040CTXRU/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o09_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1]https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0040C...UTF8&psc=1

 

[Sonnyboy_imp]

got mine (filter and washers) from amazon.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00PSM...UTF8&psc=1
[url=https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0040CTXRU/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o09_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1]https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0040C...UTF8&psc=1

Thanks for the links!

I seem to remember Ferret advising the purchase of the washers from Honda automotive. it's the same part , but they sell for less than half the price.

Thanks, Cormanus.

I bought 20 drain bolt washer from my local Honda dealer for 50 cents each.

Thanks

There are many on-line sources. The one I've used for years is Chaparral Motorsports in San Bernadino, CA. I imagine Partzilla would also have what you need -- they're good too.

Thank you.

 

[Houtman_imp]

Some of the ones on ebay were a little thinner or the sizing was off and did not seal all that well

 

[satchit]

Hi, I'm planning to perform an oil change myself (first time) on my CB1100. Could I get the drain plug washers from Home depot - if so could anyone tell me what size I'm looking for? I do not have a powersport dealer close to where I live.

Also, any recommendations on a oil filter wrench - I was planning to get an adjustable wrench from Harbor freight.

Won't talk about the oil I plan to use - I know what happens to those threads .

Regards,
Satchit

 

[LongRanger_imp]

If you don't have a dealer nearby, I recommend ordering the OE parts on-line. See the recommendations above. As far as the oil filter wrench, I will give my testimony to the Honda wrench (P/N 15010-MCE-H51). It's well built and the butt end works perfectly as a CB1100 front axle removal tool. Money well spent in my opinion.

 

[Django]

You may order the oil filter together with a wrench, Honda order# 15010-MCE-H51. You need a 17mm nut to drive the wrench.

It's #2 in this picture:

See for more information:
Oelwanne / oelpumpe für Honda CB 1100 ABS 2013 - Honda

 

[the Ferret]

Django..correction...You need an extension and ratchet to drive the oil cup OR a 17 mm socket and ratchet, OR a 17 mm open or box end wrench,. A ratchet, a med extension and the oil filter cup is the way to go on a DLX between pipes 2&3. On a standard, coming on from the left side with the box end wrench may possibly be the best way to go.

 

[satchit]

Thanks for the replies guys. The oil filter set looks interesting. I have the #17 socket already.

Any suggestions about getting the washers from a hardware store?

Regards,
Satchit

 

[the Ferret]

If there is a Honda car dealer near you go to parts dept and buy a 14 mm crush washer off a Civic I think. Same exact part 94109-14000 and cheap at the car dealership. Although it's nice to have one on hand, I have changed my oil 10 times and used the original crush washer 9 times. Would have used it 10 times but it fell into the drain pan and I didn't feel like fishing it out so used a new one I had on hand.

You can check your old one easily by running your thumbnail across it and see if you nail catches an edge, where the crush washer was, well, crushed lol. If it's smooth all the way across, it will be fine to reuse.

 

[pdedse]

If there is a Honda car dealer near you go to parts dept and buy a 14 mm crush washer off a Civic I think. Same exact part 94109-14000 and cheap at the car dealership. Although it's nice to have one on hand, I have changed my oil 10 times and used the original crush washer 9 times. Would have used it 10 times but it fell into the drain pan and I didn't feel like fishing it out so used a new one I had on hand.

You can check your old one easily by running your thumbnail across it and see if you nail catches an edge, where the crush washer was, well, crushed lol. If it's smooth all the way across, it will be fine to reuse.

I take a file to mine and smooth it out at every change...no drips yet after 4 changes.

 

[Lord Popgun]

I would not get a washer from Home Depot. Like Ferret mentioned, these are crush washers, not just steel washers. They should be used only once, but many people use them more than once (like Pdedse and Ferret) with no problems. YMMV

 

[Houtman_imp]

I have sometimes used a flat piece of sandpaper and just move the washer over that a few times, easy with aluminum washers.

 

[Rocky_imp]

Like ferret, I have used the factory washers many times over on different bikes and have never had a leak.
That said, I usually have spare washers for each bike and eventually do use them.
None of this is to say that using a new one every time isn't a good idea because it is.
Do whatever works for you.

 

[Searcher_imp]

Just to add a little info on the washer, since you guys have helped me in the past, when you crush the washer you have stressed it past the yield point into the plastic stress range. Not only was it permanently deformed but there is a residual stress in the washer material when you remove the oil plug. Bolts are routinely tightened into the plastic range in construction but they are not supposed to be reused. Of course there we are talking about critical fasteners on steel structures and we are only talking about crush washers here that are easy to see if they leak. But everything that effects my CB1100 is critical to me!

 

[the Ferret]

What is a plastic stress range?

 

[Django]

At first tightening the alu washer get pressed and can change its form minimally to adapt to the uneven surface.

The second time, it's already pressed/deformed an cannot adapt the same way. It was plastically deformed already.

That's why we should use new washers every time. However, it's not that critical.

But you can notice, how the washer soft forms, when it is tightened the first time. It does not feel the same the second time.

That washer costs about 50 cent...

Ah, and I think the thickness of the Honda OEM washers is 2 mm, when it's new. Others usually only have 1.5 mm.