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rjk555_imp
Running like a top
Too elongated for my taste, but the wood accents are attractive.
Novice_imp
Been there
exactly what I thoughtCIP57_imp said:Looks more like a woodyor a late 50's or 60's Station Wagon. Not a fan.
Elipten_imp
Road warrior
Gentlemen. My mother and father always told me to speak the truth. Pure stupid. Comes to mind with other strong language I learned in the military! If I want a Victory, I will go buy one. BMW needs to set realistic market expectations, and get back to basics.
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Elipten_imp
Road warrior
+1 on Yuk
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Stichill
Road warrior
Proves that the Germans have a sense of humor when it comes to Americans. One time I was in a museum of natural history in Munich. After touring the continents of Eurasia and Africa, I came to a hall titled "North America" and entered. The first display I saw was a diorama of a western US desert, very detailed...it even had a roadrunner darting among the cactus. And right in the middle was a plastic Jeep being driven by the stuffed figures of Mikey and Minnie Mouse, blasting their way over the natural landscape. 
Back to the bike: not a fan of the originals, so not a fan of the imitation no matter how well-executed. The wood paneling is the motorcycle equivalent of the Griswold Family Truckster.
Even without the wood...I think BMW needs to focus on being the non-cruiser company. Yes it's a huge market but, if you want to enter it properly, do like Polaris and start a new brand with its own marketing and dealer network.
Back to the bike: not a fan of the originals, so not a fan of the imitation no matter how well-executed. The wood paneling is the motorcycle equivalent of the Griswold Family Truckster.
Even without the wood...I think BMW needs to focus on being the non-cruiser company. Yes it's a huge market but, if you want to enter it properly, do like Polaris and start a new brand with its own marketing and dealer network.
furious_blue_imp
Been there
according to this source:
BMW Concept 101 Preview - webBikeWorld
the actual designer of the bike was Roland Sands (not a German national).
it makes more sense that someone 'culturally American' would have even thought of a 'Woody' bike.
BMW Concept 101 Preview - webBikeWorld
the actual designer of the bike was Roland Sands (not a German national).
it makes more sense that someone 'culturally American' would have even thought of a 'Woody' bike.
Elipten_imp
Road warrior
I think he took their money and left with his usual design elements. No wonder it looks like a Victory! It is immoral not to part a fool from his money.
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furious_blue_imp
Been there
I wonder if that's what my dealer thought of me, after I gave the go ahead to order me an NM4 !Elipten_imp said:
(sorry for the diversion.. back to our regularly scheduled program...)
rboe
Road warrior
Wow! Wood grain, on a motorcycle! I just mentioned on another FB that you don't see that on a motorcycle. Ufdah!
username_imp
First service completed
I wouldn't mind it if they got rid of the wood.
JustPassinThru_imp
Been there
Maybe I'm simple.
But...WHY...do ALL the manufacturers...wanna imitate CRUISERS!
I for one don't like them. I don't like the riding position and I don't like the style. I don't think it lends much to the riding experience...witness "cruiserface." Now, the marketing types will say, sure, look at H-D's money machine. And that's a valid argument...but BMW has its own niche.
Why this?
They're welcome to put it out. The more bikes, the better...if it takes this to draw some folks into the pastime, great.
I'll take a pass. Give me that CB1100 with the Nighthawk styling, on the other thread...and I'm a happy rider.
But...WHY...do ALL the manufacturers...wanna imitate CRUISERS!
I for one don't like them. I don't like the riding position and I don't like the style. I don't think it lends much to the riding experience...witness "cruiserface." Now, the marketing types will say, sure, look at H-D's money machine. And that's a valid argument...but BMW has its own niche.
Why this?
They're welcome to put it out. The more bikes, the better...if it takes this to draw some folks into the pastime, great.
I'll take a pass. Give me that CB1100 with the Nighthawk styling, on the other thread...and I'm a happy rider.
Lord Popgun
Road warrior
Because they are HUGE sellers right now.
JustPassinThru_imp
Been there
Are they?
Or is it just HARLEY-DAVIDSON cruisers which are huge sellers?
I don't know. I'm told that total motorcycle sales are about a third of what they were in 1985. And I think the cruiser market is about tapped out. Moreover...if you want a good late-model used H-D, this is the time; so many people are overextended.
Or is it just HARLEY-DAVIDSON cruisers which are huge sellers?
I don't know. I'm told that total motorcycle sales are about a third of what they were in 1985. And I think the cruiser market is about tapped out. Moreover...if you want a good late-model used H-D, this is the time; so many people are overextended.
Lord Popgun
Road warrior
Harley does have like 49% of the US market. So I don't think you can ignore the cruiser segment and I think they are chasing customers.
But I also think you are right and the cruiser market is either about tapped out or on the downside of the curve.
But I also think you are right and the cruiser market is either about tapped out or on the downside of the curve.
username_imp
First service completed
People get sucked in to the "cool" factor of cruisers. I didn't start riding until I was 33, and I thought having a big cruiser was the thing. If I had it to do all over again, I would probably just bought a sport tourer and been done with it. Instead, I bought a Victory, and although a great bike, I never felt that comfortable on it. Then I made a big mistake trading it for a Fatboy.
I had never rode a motorcycle with your feet under your butt and a more aggressive riding position. To me that is much more comfortable. I never realized how bad my posture gets with feet forward controls. I ride a friend's Electra Glide sometimes and catch myself slumping.
I had never rode a motorcycle with your feet under your butt and a more aggressive riding position. To me that is much more comfortable. I never realized how bad my posture gets with feet forward controls. I ride a friend's Electra Glide sometimes and catch myself slumping.
gossman_imp
Been there
Cruisers are still the biggest single segment of the market, baby boomers and the Gen X'ers still buying them. Yamaha Star, Suzuki, Honda, all offer clones, Polaris is going strong with the Victory and Indian lines, and Harley rules the top. They aren't going anywhere for a while. Of all the styles of motorcycles, the cruisers still draw the crowds. Just look at the popularity of Sturgis, they aren't going away anytime soon.JustPassinThru_imp said:
