Motogear Titanium Header and TSR Air Funnel

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Well, I just installed the CAT free Motogear Titanium Header and TSR Air Funnel and all I can say is WOW!!!! This is the way the CB SHOULD run. Throttle response is much quicker and she pulls much harder. She also sounds mean, not overwhelming, but just enough that you know the bike isn't stock.

Install was quick and the springs on the collector will ensure no leaks. I was amazed how light the titanium was. This is my first experience with this material and it is crazy light.

However, I didn't know they would turn gold like the stainless stocker. If I had, I would have skipped the $100 polish option. Other than that, they are super high quality and fit like a glove.

Going to try to have her Dyno'ed in next week. I'll post the figures and the map for download if anyone wants to duplicate my setup.
 
Uhhhh...do we need to say it? PICTURES! (or it didn't happen). ;)
 
Jon,

That's terrific! I was going to go the TSR route but after your travails the Motogear headers are getting a hard look.

Can't wait to see the dyno results, and like Ferret said.....PICTURES!
 
Have the K Factory 4-1 with full flow baffle and TSR funnel, just added a power commander and waiting to get her dyno'd :)
 
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Sorry guys, I'll get some pics up tomorrow. I wanted to get her back together and on the road today. CB4ME, the CAT free route is the only way to go. My first test run with the header was an eye opener, but what really shocked me what how much of a difference the funnel makes.

I really loved the look of the TSR chrome unit and can only hope they update thier design to add some collector springs and offer a CAT free setup.

Oh, if anyone here decides to go with this header, get yourself a Motion Pro spring puller for the collector springs. Well worth the $7
Motion Pro
 
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Hera are a few pics;





The sans CAT collector





And the air funnel ( the little silver button head screw on the left is for some emissions related item that is not on US models, thank you lord!)
 
Cool stuff. Very clean. Can you get to the oil filter?
 
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Indeed Ferret, Lots of room to the filter. The bends do not interfere with header nut access either. That was not the case with the TSR unit.

Another well designed, well thought out, high quality piece of motorcycle art from Mr. T's shop.

Too bad there is little domestic support for our bikes.......
 
Absolutely gorgeous. I didn’t think titanium would change color but it’s beautiful.

De-snorkeling via a TSR air funnel was a concern until I pulled my stock air filter. Very, very clean despite a lot of riding on dirt and gravel roads.

Jon - Anything else on the horizon? You’ve got one HOT CB!
 
another q...can you hear intake noise with that set up?
 
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Nope, no intake noise, but the exhaust note is a bit louder due to the lack of a CAT.
CB4ME,

I'm done with the powertrain after the dynotune. The only other mod I may do is change the rear shocks. I'll wait for you to report on the ones you just installed before I move forward.

That air funnel REALLY makes a difference..Much more than I thought it would. The stock PC V maps seems to be working fine, but the dynotune is indeed in order


And, if I can get my hands on one, Install a Mugen chain guard....
 
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Here is the Motogear header instructions. Note the silver vaccum valve on the airbox lid and all those hoses on pic #3. Glad we didn't get that piece of additional emissions equipment.
 
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Ok, guys, my shop was having printer issues and was told the map will be e-mailed to me. They were pretty busy today and as of this writing I have not yet received it. I know, no pics = it never happened. The map will be posted once I get it. Here is how it went.

The stock PC V map was pretty close, but it is a little lean up top.

The speed sensor seems to be an issue because it limits the bike to around 6K in 3rd gear, If you unplug it, the ECU knows somehow and it causes errors and doesn't allow for a complete tune. My shop is going to call Dynojet Monday and ask if they have any updates/fixes.

Bazzaz makes a fuel control similar to the PC V that has a "Speed Amplifier" that supposedly overcomes the sensor somehow. http://www.bazzaz.net/instructions/F391i.pdf I had never heard of them, but my shop told me the company was founded by an ex-Dynojet engineer and puts out good products. Maybe Deanohh can figure out what this "Speed Amplifier" does...

I am happy with the results and she runs super smooth. 97 HP was the final number and the power delivery is much more linear and instantaneous.

What I learned:

Titanium will turn colors just like stainless, so skip the polish option
CAT free is the only way to go if you really want to see what she can do
A speed sensor solution is needed to tune the bike to its full potential
The TSR air funnel makes a BIG difference
NO popping at all on decel, plug that PAIR valve
 
Bazzaz install is not exactly pnp. Bazzaz info says the amplifier is used to determine what gear the bike is in. It taps the speed sensor wire and I don't see how it could affect the speed limiter because the ecu doesn't get its speed signal directly from the sensor but from the Speedo head or if. Abs, from the abs brain. If the Speedo reads 112, the ecu sees 112, unless I'm wrong.
 
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