GoldOxide_imp
Road warrior
Agreed.Gone in 60_imp said:
Is the CB1100 no more?
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bioman_imp
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Dave Swanson_imp said:As I said I love the V7 but the Griso is a very special bike! Once the stock fueling is sorted with a good map (there is an excellent source) the engine is like nothing else. Turbine smooth with plenty of power!
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Don't get me wrong though. I still love my CB1100
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Good combo, Dave! In fact, I have exactly the same combination:
treedoc_imp
Running like a top
That Griso looks awesome... I wanted to ride one when I was buying the CB but there aren't many around. A comparo write up against the CB would be interesting.
In regards to HP, it depends where you are riding, back when I had the 500 we were living rural, small roads with lots of tight corners, a bit of gravel, no highways. For sure the 1100 doesn't go great on gravel, but it is less fun on even the small sealed roads than the 500 was I rekon.
We moved, still rural, some corners, but a 25km stretch of expressway that I travel to work and back on. The 1100 is far better suited and could use a few more HP at times.
We don't really have the long distance highway riding here like in the US, most rides you have to chuck her around a few corners to get where your going.
I have found the 1100 has mellowed out my riding a bit, makes me feel like a gentleman riding her.
In regards to HP, it depends where you are riding, back when I had the 500 we were living rural, small roads with lots of tight corners, a bit of gravel, no highways. For sure the 1100 doesn't go great on gravel, but it is less fun on even the small sealed roads than the 500 was I rekon.
We moved, still rural, some corners, but a 25km stretch of expressway that I travel to work and back on. The 1100 is far better suited and could use a few more HP at times.
We don't really have the long distance highway riding here like in the US, most rides you have to chuck her around a few corners to get where your going.
I have found the 1100 has mellowed out my riding a bit, makes me feel like a gentleman riding her
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the Ferret
Road warrior
Here is my test report after riding a Grisotreedoc_imp said:That Griso looks awesome... I wanted to ride one when I was buying the CB but there aren't many around. A comparo write up against the CB would be interesting.
In regards to HP, it depends where you are riding, back when I had the 500 we were living rural, small roads with lots of tight corners, a bit of gravel, no highways. For sure the 1100 doesn't go great on gravel, but it is less fun on even the small sealed roads than the 500 was I rekon.
We moved, still rural, some corners, but a 25km stretch of expressway that I travel to work and back on. The 1100 is far better suited and could use a few more HP at times.
We don't really have the long distance highway riding here like in the US, most rides you have to chuck her around a few corners to get where your going.
I have found the 1100 has mellowed out my riding a bit, makes me feel like a gentleman riding her
http://cb1100forum.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=8989
Dave Swanson
Running like a top
Here is my test report after riding a GrisoThe ferret_imp said:Here is my test report after riding a Grisotreedoc_imp said:That Griso looks awesome... I wanted to ride one when I was buying the CB but there aren't many around. A comparo write up against the CB would be interesting.
In regards to HP, it depends where you are riding, back when I had the 500 we were living rural, small roads with lots of tight corners, a bit of gravel, no highways. For sure the 1100 doesn't go great on gravel, but it is less fun on even the small sealed roads than the 500 was I rekon.
We moved, still rural, some corners, but a 25km stretch of expressway that I travel to work and back on. The 1100 is far better suited and could use a few more HP at times.
We don't really have the long distance highway riding here like in the US, most rides you have to chuck her around a few corners to get where your going.
I have found the 1100 has mellowed out my riding a bit, makes me feel like a gentleman riding her
http://cb1100forum.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=8989
http://cb1100forum.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=8989
Your comment on the rough fueling is spot on. I winced when you compared it to a Harley, but have to agree with you. The factory map is not tolerable, and keeps many prospective buyers from taking the leap to buy one.
Luckily there has been a small group of very dedicated Aussies working tireless to provide improved maps for the Griso and other 1200 8 valve engines. The map couldn't be easier to install, and transforms the engine into a turbine smooth wonder!! For $100 the Griso is transformed to a sublime state.
You owe yourself a ride on a properly sorted Griso. When I bought mine I didn't ride it once until the map was installed. I had the map purchased, cables, and laptop ready in the garage when I brought it home!
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the Ferret
Road warrior
you know it's a shame when a factory puts out a product that doesnt come close to meeting its potential. the 2006 Yamaha FZ-1 comes to mind, as does the first year Yamaha FZ-09. both bikes had such horrible fueling issues as to be nearly unridable. Sounds like the Griso falls into that category as well. Fixable for $100? why in the world didnt Guzzi do it as a freebie recall? crazy.
would welcome the opportunity to ride a sorted one.
would welcome the opportunity to ride a sorted one.
the Ferret
Road warrior
Probably is VLJ, but there are enough bikes out there with perfect FI (like the CB 1100 for example) to know that it can be done. If a couple of guys in Australia can figure it out in their garage....... the factories should be able to figure it out as well. With the FZ-1 and FJ-09 Yamaha got it figured out on subsequent models. The XSR 900 fueling is very good.
treedoc_imp
Running like a top
Thanks Ferret, good write up. You talk about getting back on the CB and appreciating how sorted it is, that was my first impression riding it.
Everything feels premium, its funny you mentioned the Griso stand, because that is one of the things I love about the CB, it is somehow satisfying to kick the stand down, 'thunk'!
Im not sure about the slight 'miss' with the valve timing, it seems in contrast with the overall sophistication of the rest of the bike.
The Griso appealed to me initially for the same reason as the CB, it looks great, no weird shaped lights, no plastic covering everything. Not classic like the CB but a very good looking bike.
Everything feels premium, its funny you mentioned the Griso stand, because that is one of the things I love about the CB, it is somehow satisfying to kick the stand down, 'thunk'!
Im not sure about the slight 'miss' with the valve timing, it seems in contrast with the overall sophistication of the rest of the bike.
The Griso appealed to me initially for the same reason as the CB, it looks great, no weird shaped lights, no plastic covering everything. Not classic like the CB but a very good looking bike.
GoldOxide_imp
Road warrior
(+1) It is really good lookin'. (and shaft drive)treedoc_imp said:
Latest review of a said underdog:
michael1954
Been there
I agree. The emissions regs will kill the current version of the CB1100 in UK and I'd be surprised if Honda import the next one, given the low sales volumes.Richard_imp said:I agree. The emissions regs will kill the current version of the CB1100 in UK and I'd be surprised if Honda import the next one, given the low sales volumes.Jfro5687_imp said:
So, yes, I think you've done the right thing in grabbing one while you can.
I was interested in the Guzzi's because they use shaft drive, but in the end, the Honda is far more authentic imo. Which MG did you try?
So, yes, I think you've done the right thing in grabbing one while you can.
I was interested in the Guzzi's because they use shaft drive, but in the end, the Honda is far more authentic imo. Which MG did you try? I did just that. Bought a 2017 CB1100EX about 3 weeks ago with only 1200 miles on it. My 2013, has about 7400 miles. Still a babe to me. I will keep them both, and long with my 2018 Kawasaki Z900RS, they may be the last bikes I ever buy. If I buy even one more, it is going to be a Triumph Speed Twin 1200 in Red and black.
I too, wished I had bought my 2013 CB new, but I have been riding since 1969, and always wanted a CB750. I can still ride and will ride for the rest of my life. Now if Honda will just release the Blacked out CB1100 RS here, I will own 3 CB1100's!
bioman_imp
Running like a top
The ferret_imp said:Here is my test report after riding a Grisotreedoc_imp said:That Griso looks awesome... I wanted to ride one when I was buying the CB but there aren't many around. A comparo write up against the CB would be interesting.
In regards to HP, it depends where you are riding, back when I had the 500 we were living rural, small roads with lots of tight corners, a bit of gravel, no highways. For sure the 1100 doesn't go great on gravel, but it is less fun on even the small sealed roads than the 500 was I rekon.
We moved, still rural, some corners, but a 25km stretch of expressway that I travel to work and back on. The 1100 is far better suited and could use a few more HP at times.
We don't really have the long distance highway riding here like in the US, most rides you have to chuck her around a few corners to get where your going.
I have found the 1100 has mellowed out my riding a bit, makes me feel like a gentleman riding her
http://cb1100forum.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=8989
I liked your write-up! I also liked Rboe's comment:
That is exactly how I feel: I have a perfect marriage with my CB1100, while at the same time have an affair with a wild mistress: the Griso!
Richard_imp
Running like a top
Sounds like we are on the same page when it comes to the bikes we like. The Speed Twin (in red and black) was a very close competitor when I was choosing my CB1100. In the end, I got a great deal on the CB and that probably pushed my decision. On top of that, the Speed Twin is a slightly more "frantic" ride - one of those bike that urges you to go faster.michael1954_imp said:I agree. The emissions regs will kill the current version of the CB1100 in UK and I'd be surprised if Honda import the next one, given the low sales volumes.Richard_imp said:I agree. The emissions regs will kill the current version of the CB1100 in UK and I'd be surprised if Honda import the next one, given the low sales volumes.Jfro5687_imp said:
So, yes, I think you've done the right thing in grabbing one while you can.
I was interested in the Guzzi's because they use shaft drive, but in the end, the Honda is far more authentic imo. Which MG did you try?
So, yes, I think you've done the right thing in grabbing one while you can.
I was interested in the Guzzi's because they use shaft drive, but in the end, the Honda is far more authentic imo. Which MG did you try? I did just that. Bought a 2017 CB1100EX about 3 weeks ago with only 1200 miles on it. My 2013, has about 7400 miles. Still a babe to me. I will keep them both, and long with my 2018 Kawasaki Z900RS, they may be the last bikes I ever buy. If I buy even one more, it is going to be a Triumph Speed Twin 1200 in Red and black.
I too, wished I had bought my 2013 CB new, but I have been riding since 1969, and always wanted a CB750. I can still ride and will ride for the rest of my life. Now if Honda will just release the Blacked out CB1100 RS here, I will own 3 CB1100's!
However, when you get one, make sure it has the V&H pipes as they look far better than stock (imo).
Enjoy your ride. :beerchug:
Dave Swanson
Running like a top
The $100 map is an unofficial map not authorized by Moto Guzzi, but it does wonders.The ferret_imp said:
I must mention that a good tune is also necessary. Careful balancing of the throttle bodies and a slight tightening of the valve lash from the factory spec is necessary to take full advantage of the map.
The valve lash lash change has also been proven over many thousands of testing miles. The $100 map from Beetle will not perform at it's optimum without the valve lash change.
The end result is a complete transformation of smoothness of the engine! I can't really describe just how good the 1200 8V motor becomes after these changes.
I do think the crap stock map limited sales of the 1200 8V CARC models. Most potential buyers riding it in stock tune without any knowledge of how easy it is to transform the bike into something really special would turn their nose up.
motoWest_imp
First service completed
I'm sad to see that the CB is gone, but I can't say that I'm surprised. All of the dealers I spoke with told me they had a real hard time moving them.
GoldOxide_imp
Road warrior
The CB1100 is an incredibly good quality bike. It is hard to move them in Canada.
pekingduck
Road warrior
Looking back at an earlier post in this thread, I noticed something interesting in this link:
Patents hint at new Honda CB1100
Noticed the blueprints show what looks to be provisions for a rubber-mounted front engine mount. The old 1992 GSX1100G had the same, and probably other inline fours, and I remember riding it and thinking it was smoother than anything I'd ridden, including a Gold Wing and a CBX.
Patents hint at new Honda CB1100
Noticed the blueprints show what looks to be provisions for a rubber-mounted front engine mount. The old 1992 GSX1100G had the same, and probably other inline fours, and I remember riding it and thinking it was smoother than anything I'd ridden, including a Gold Wing and a CBX.
peterbaron
Road warrior
PG, will you speculate about newer, a rubber-mounted front engine mount CB ???
pekingduck
Road warrior
Can't speculate as there may be a tsunami coming to American Honda soon.........peterbaron_imp said:
A few comments...
To Dave S:
I really love the exhaust note of the stock MG V7. I have never ridden one of these bikes but even it that were the case I can't imagine any of the V7's other positive traits displacing that one at the top of the list for me. Speaking of exhausts and MG's — as far as the Griso is concerned when it comes to the overall look, your exhaust modifications (I'm assuming those are the stock headers) has pulled off a minor miracle as far as I'm concerned. I actually like the looks of the Griso in stock form, with the exception the exhaust can(faux-cans?). If I owned a Griso myself I would definitely be on the lookout for an exhaust very similar to the one you've installed. Man, what a difference for the better that makes. Nicely done.
To the ferret, et al.:
I can appreciate the mention of the ideal horsepower / torque spec for each individual and the impact those elements can have on how enjoyable, or fun, a motorcycle can be for each of us. I can also appreciate the mention of the differences in the characteristics of power delivery that exist from one engine design to the next — along with the impact this can have upon each of us from an enjoyment standpoint as well. That each of these points would be raised in such a discussion does not surprise me. However, what I am surprised by is that no one brought up the impact that the horsepower / weight ratio plays in addition to these other things. Was there a conscious reason behind this omission? (In other words, is there something that I am not considering or am overlooking when camping in this part of the forest?)
To Dave S:
I really love the exhaust note of the stock MG V7. I have never ridden one of these bikes but even it that were the case I can't imagine any of the V7's other positive traits displacing that one at the top of the list for me. Speaking of exhausts and MG's — as far as the Griso is concerned when it comes to the overall look, your exhaust modifications (I'm assuming those are the stock headers) has pulled off a minor miracle as far as I'm concerned. I actually like the looks of the Griso in stock form, with the exception the exhaust can(faux-cans?). If I owned a Griso myself I would definitely be on the lookout for an exhaust very similar to the one you've installed. Man, what a difference for the better that makes. Nicely done.
To the ferret, et al.:
I can appreciate the mention of the ideal horsepower / torque spec for each individual and the impact those elements can have on how enjoyable, or fun, a motorcycle can be for each of us. I can also appreciate the mention of the differences in the characteristics of power delivery that exist from one engine design to the next — along with the impact this can have upon each of us from an enjoyment standpoint as well. That each of these points would be raised in such a discussion does not surprise me. However, what I am surprised by is that no one brought up the impact that the horsepower / weight ratio plays in addition to these other things. Was there a conscious reason behind this omission? (In other words, is there something that I am not considering or am overlooking when camping in this part of the forest?)
