I do not like ABS

[Cormanus]

It may be great fun going around and around and around discussing whether or not ABS is a good thing or whether we're as or more skilled than it, but Max pointed to an important concern here: there is a possibility that the ABS on motoRat's bike is malfunctioning. That should surely be investigated?

 

[juliang_imp]

my 2014 CB1100 doesn't have ABS. My 2015 Kawasaki Versys 1000 did. I am ok without it to be honest. I also have a 2019 Royal Enfield 650 Interceptor that does have it and it has really unobtrusive in that bike, fuel injection has been really smooth too. Maybe motorcycle electronics have improved since 2015? However I test rode a Kawasaki Z900rs last Friday and the back brake was a wooden and unresponsive as the 2015 Versys so I am still on the fence

 

[ohiorider_imp]

I read through many of the same conversations when BMW rolled out their 1st generation ABS system on their 1988 K100RS/ABS sport tourer. It's difficult to see the same discussion resurface after 30 years of improved ABS technology.

 

[Gone in 60]

Regarding ABS operation, does the CB require a “bleed down” during fluid replacement? BMW needs this, which is basically performing a standard bleed, then cycling the ABS pump to release air that might be trapped in the system, then bleeding again. BMW specific tools allow the consumer to cycle the pump and avoid the dealership.

Is this necessary on a Honda ABS? Could air be trapped in the ABS?

I’m a bit split on ABS. My last bike, an ‘07 BMW, was my first that had it. Honestly not sure if I ever felt it engage while riding. But, despite religious adherence to the proper fluid replacement interval and procedure, my ABS system failed, and due to the CAN Bus system, this also disabled other essential systems on the bike. Replacement parts and labor were prohibitively expensive, leading me to sell it for my non-ABS CB.

 

[Lord Popgun]

The service manual does not require any cycling of the ABS pump for bleeding. Same for the ST1300 ABS, not that it really matters here though.

 

[the Ferret]

Mine is getting a clutch and brake bleed tomorrow in anticipation of the rally. Been 22,000 miles. Kinda got away from me. Last had it done 2 years ago at 24,000 miles.

 

[GoldOxide_imp]

(+1) ABS. Seen its action as few times. No complaints.

 

[motoRAT_imp]

come on guys, I'm not going to cut wires, big leap from that to pulling the plug on the hospital :angel:
I just said that I dislike the ABS
thanks for all the advice given, it's good to know different opinions and different riding styles result in different operating situations
so let's go for a :biker: and a :beerchug:

 

[jtopiso_imp]

come on guys, I'm not going to cut wires, big leap from that to pulling the plug on the hospital :angel:
I just said that I dislike the ABS
thanks for all the advice given, it's good to know different opinions and different riding styles result in different operating situations
so let's go for a :biker: and a :beerchug:

If you think ABS kicked-in when it shouldn't, this could be caused by:
-faulty speed sensor (probably dirt on the phonic-wheel)
-Wheels with very different rolling radius than what the system expects.

So, before going for the wires, I'd check the phonic-wheels for dirt, and I'd also check the tyre pressures.

Also: if you are in a slope, your tyre loads shift. If you are downhill, you must use mainly your front brake (as the front is the most loaded tyre). If you are uphill, you must use your rear brake (even just for holding the bike still on a very inclined uphill slope). Otherwise, if you put most braking effort on the most unloaded tyre, your available grip will decrease dramaticaly and it will slip and trigger ABS. My bet is that this is what happened.

 

[Cormanus]

You blokes—jtopsio and motoRat—could meet at a suitable border crossing for a :beerchug: and a :biker: and a chat, figure all this out and report back.

 

[Houtman_imp]

I have replaced the fluid on both my 2013 and 2014 (both with ABS ) and is was very easy to do ; at the same time I put st. st. speed bleeders on the bikes. This will make it even easier than the normal bleeders. No need for a special flush like on some BMW's

 

[motoRAT_imp]

You blokes—jtopsio and motoRat—could meet at a suitable border crossing for a :beerchug: and a :biker: and a chat, figure all this out and report back.

I'm the farthest away from the border as the land goes

 

[jtopiso_imp]

You blokes—jtopsio and motoRat—could meet at a suitable border crossing for a :beerchug: and a :biker: and a chat, figure all this out and report back.

I'm the farthest away from the border as the land goes

I'm the farthest away from the border as the land goes
I am closest to the land's end on the north east of Spain X'D