headlight adapter
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pekingduck
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j3gq_imp said:
Tev62
Road warrior
You have to identify the connector, once you have done that you would have to identify which pins Honda used and for what. It is just a connector and every manufacturer could use it in a different way so there is not going to be a standard "conversion cable". Then you need to find out what rating each circuit is rated at and how it is protected. After having done all that you want to understand if your new H4 or H7 bulb draws too much current for the circuit. Whatever it is you want to do I'm not sure it will ever be worth it.
peterbaron
Road warrior
An 8 pin connector must be the OEM LED
EDIT:
You need to buy:
* 2014 head lamp reflector to accommodate new LED-H4 bulb
* H4/9003 switching ground polarity module,
* a proper, 8 pin male connector housing to be plugged into existing OEM female harness, otherwise yo have to cut OEM wires = NOT recommended
*variety of coloured wires AND male pins that can be properly LOCKED in male connector housing - very important, so not just any pins, as these have different sizes and locking configurations. Pin will always fit and lock in its housing if properly oriented
* proper wire gauging is essential
https://www.amazon.ca/LumaWerx-Switching-Ground-Polarity-Module/dp/B07FK4W1ZY
Diagram & pics are courtesy of Alain Lee
EDIT:
You need to buy:
* 2014 head lamp reflector to accommodate new LED-H4 bulb
* H4/9003 switching ground polarity module,
* a proper, 8 pin male connector housing to be plugged into existing OEM female harness, otherwise yo have to cut OEM wires = NOT recommended
*variety of coloured wires AND male pins that can be properly LOCKED in male connector housing - very important, so not just any pins, as these have different sizes and locking configurations. Pin will always fit and lock in its housing if properly oriented
* proper wire gauging is essential
https://www.amazon.ca/LumaWerx-Switching-Ground-Polarity-Module/dp/B07FK4W1ZY
Diagram & pics are courtesy of Alain Lee
Tev62
Road warrior
Yes, I understand it is the headlamp connector, just nothing special to Honda, any manufacturer could use it anywhere on a bike and wire it as they please.peterbaron_imp said:An 8 pin connector must be the OEM LED
EDIT:
You need to buy:
* 2014 head lamp reflector to accommodate new LED-H4 bulb
* H4/9003 switching ground polarity module,
* a proper, 8 pin male connector housing to be plugged into existing OEM female harness, otherwise yo have to cut OEM wires = NOT recommended
*variety of coloured wires AND male pins that can be properly LOCKED in male connector housing - very important, so not just any pins, as these have different sizes and locking configurations. Pin will always fit and lock in its housing if properly oriented
* proper wire gauging is essential
https://www.amazon.ca/LumaWerx-Switching-Ground-Polarity-Module/dp/B07FK4W1ZY
Diagram & pics are courtesy of Alain Lee
peterbaron
Road warrior
EDIT 2peterbaron_imp said:An 8 pin connector must be the OEM LED
EDIT:
You need to buy:
* 2014 head lamp reflector to accommodate new LED-H4 bulb
* H4/9003 switching ground polarity module,
* a proper, 8 pin male connector housing to be plugged into existing OEM female harness, otherwise yo have to cut OEM wires = NOT recommended
*variety of coloured wires AND male pins that can be properly LOCKED in male connector housing - very important, so not just any pins, as these have different sizes and locking configurations. Pin will always fit and lock in its housing if properly oriented
* proper wire gauging is essential
https://www.amazon.ca/LumaWerx-Switching-Ground-Polarity-Module/dp/B07FK4W1ZY
Diagram & pics are courtesy of Alain Lee
These two above are courtesy of peckingduck
Rogers had an outage for 36 hrs and now is sooooo slow that cannot even finish a post within an hr. Hope all is correct??
Thank you, Peter. I really like this bloke.
peterbaron
Road warrior
Me too...Cormanus_imp said:Thank you, Peter. I really like this bloke.
:beerchug:
Seems like I need to add a few bits, just to be sure:
- the connector I have shown is the original connector inside my LED headlight bucket (EX built 2017)
- so yes, that is factory
- everything PeterB says makes sense (I am familiar with electrics and crimping in general - just don't know much about this particular Honda's scheme)
- finally, since the diagram does not show the light bulb, not on the left nor on the right, I am a bit concerned that the connector in the diagram is actually NOT (?) the connector to which the LED unit connects ???
- why do I need the "H4/9003 switching ground polarity module" ?
- would you know what the abbreviation BAT means ?
Thanks
- the connector I have shown is the original connector inside my LED headlight bucket (EX built 2017)
- so yes, that is factory
- everything PeterB says makes sense (I am familiar with electrics and crimping in general - just don't know much about this particular Honda's scheme)
- finally, since the diagram does not show the light bulb, not on the left nor on the right, I am a bit concerned that the connector in the diagram is actually NOT (?) the connector to which the LED unit connects ???
- why do I need the "H4/9003 switching ground polarity module" ?
- would you know what the abbreviation BAT means ?
Thanks
The "BAT" are 12v powered wires from the battery and through the "D" Headlight fuse and "F" Meter/Illumination fuse.j3gq_imp said:
Also the connector is available and can be individually purchased including the tiny wires and pins from a supplier in England.
I did the basic research and concluded that this method to upgrade the headlight into "H4" is too expensive, IMHO, it is more cost effective just to add a pair of projector/spot lights and leaves every wires/connectors original.
BTW, another Forum member from Europe upgraded his 2017 headlight, I cannot find that tread to attach. Sorry. :dodgy:
Please note: Should you buy the proper male connector (from England) you will likely need to use a relay as the Honda wires are very thin and may not have the capability to carry the higher amps requirements of the H4 bulbs.
For providing any CB1100 with a much better headlight in terms of light output (Lumen) and distribution of the light cone, ...
Web!ke (written with a !), link here, seems to offer a cost effective solution for all CB models, old and new, DLX, EX and other. It consists of a package with all parts you need to convert your existing light (LED or Halogen !) into a light using a LED bulb, which looks similar to (but is not a) H4 bulb. For older models of our CB1100 all you need is this kit, for more recent models like the EX you need to buy the older style headlight unit too.
I found the following prices ex S&H, ex import duties:
- package (independent of CB model) 173 €
- headlight unit (Honda part # 33120-MAZ-003) 78 €
(not needed for earlier CB models)
Other parameters: color temperature 6000K, power draw hi beam or low beam 30W.
When you go to their website, all you need to do is put above mentioned Honda part number into the search field, and you will see all options.
Beware, you have to read carefully, not be afraid of fuzzy translations from Japanese, and take your time before you order. But compared to other solutions I have seen it seems to be plug-n-play, and good value for money.
Web!ke (written with a !), link here, seems to offer a cost effective solution for all CB models, old and new, DLX, EX and other. It consists of a package with all parts you need to convert your existing light (LED or Halogen !) into a light using a LED bulb, which looks similar to (but is not a) H4 bulb. For older models of our CB1100 all you need is this kit, for more recent models like the EX you need to buy the older style headlight unit too.
I found the following prices ex S&H, ex import duties:
- package (independent of CB model) 173 €
- headlight unit (Honda part # 33120-MAZ-003) 78 €
(not needed for earlier CB models)
Other parameters: color temperature 6000K, power draw hi beam or low beam 30W.
When you go to their website, all you need to do is put above mentioned Honda part number into the search field, and you will see all options.
Beware, you have to read carefully, not be afraid of fuzzy translations from Japanese, and take your time before you order. But compared to other solutions I have seen it seems to be plug-n-play, and good value for money.
max
Road warrior
J3 might want to check your link, it leads to a "buy this domain" website, is that what you wanted?
Here is a link to an led headlight replacement;
MADMAX : X3 H4 LED Headlight [MM13-0046-BL-1]
From webike, i advise to read the comments at the bottom of the list, is this the led headlight you advised about?
My led h4 replacement has just expired after 1,5 years, a little shorter than the advertised 10.000 hours.
Got a double set of r3 h4 led lights advertised as 4800lm at 6000k, it worked well when it did and passed inspection
but the led die failed and emitted only a very faint white light, the controller box still worked and the high beam still worked so i replaced it with a standard h4 halogen lamp which has a predictable lifespan and is relatively cheap, you can even carry a spare if you want to replace on the run.
Here is a link to an led headlight replacement;
MADMAX : X3 H4 LED Headlight [MM13-0046-BL-1]
From webike, i advise to read the comments at the bottom of the list, is this the led headlight you advised about?
My led h4 replacement has just expired after 1,5 years, a little shorter than the advertised 10.000 hours.
Got a double set of r3 h4 led lights advertised as 4800lm at 6000k, it worked well when it did and passed inspection
but the led die failed and emitted only a very faint white light, the controller box still worked and the high beam still worked so i replaced it with a standard h4 halogen lamp which has a predictable lifespan and is relatively cheap, you can even carry a spare if you want to replace on the run.
Corrected link is Motorrad-Teile aus Japan - Webike, thanks Max.
If you use this link from another country it will/should take you to the same shop, with a country specific url, (unless you use a VPN).
No Max, the specific product link you gave is NOT the product I have found and described. Please try again using the little procedure I have given above (search with Honda part #). This will let you find 7 upgrade packages by a company called Protec (model specific, with bulb, harness, clamps, etc) and the optional headlight bucket mentioned. Still seems a good solution BUT ...
Sorry to hear that the solution you tried didn't work out for you, Of course I cannot say anything about that, or about the lifespan of the product I found advertised.
If you use this link from another country it will/should take you to the same shop, with a country specific url, (unless you use a VPN).
No Max, the specific product link you gave is NOT the product I have found and described. Please try again using the little procedure I have given above (search with Honda part #). This will let you find 7 upgrade packages by a company called Protec (model specific, with bulb, harness, clamps, etc) and the optional headlight bucket mentioned. Still seems a good solution BUT ...
Sorry to hear that the solution you tried didn't work out for you, Of course I cannot say anything about that, or about the lifespan of the product I found advertised.
max
Road warrior
Thanks for the new link but it now comes up with" url not found"
However if i follow my link and enter the product code 33120-MAZ-003 in the search field it shows a webpage which looks like this;
That looks to be the product you mean, it shows a honda part number and the protec products, i guess you have to buy one of the protec products and add the 33120-MAZ-003 part following your guidelines depending on the model year to complete the installation, here is a link to the page that worked for me;
Webike: Motorcycle Parts, Accessories, Gears, OEM parts & Reviews
The two units are on the bottom of the page with the description of the product, no reviews yet.
The lifespan and reliability of the fan on the back of the led unit is what would worry me as well as the possibility that wiring could touch the fan blades and stop operation without you realizing what is happening
Here is a picture of my expired led unit, it worked very well when it was still working but it had a very short lifespan of maybe 500 hours unfortunately;
Thanks for all the info and happy motoring J3..
However if i follow my link and enter the product code 33120-MAZ-003 in the search field it shows a webpage which looks like this;
That looks to be the product you mean, it shows a honda part number and the protec products, i guess you have to buy one of the protec products and add the 33120-MAZ-003 part following your guidelines depending on the model year to complete the installation, here is a link to the page that worked for me;
Webike: Motorcycle Parts, Accessories, Gears, OEM parts & Reviews
The two units are on the bottom of the page with the description of the product, no reviews yet.
The lifespan and reliability of the fan on the back of the led unit is what would worry me as well as the possibility that wiring could touch the fan blades and stop operation without you realizing what is happening
Here is a picture of my expired led unit, it worked very well when it was still working but it had a very short lifespan of maybe 500 hours unfortunately;
Thanks for all the info and happy motoring J3..
max
Road warrior
Indeed, the second picture where it says;
"Here is a picture of my expired led unit, it worked very well when it was still working but it had a very short lifespan of maybe 500 hours unfortunately;"
is the nice led replacement unit i had installed on my cb1100, it had good feedback and passive cooling braids which were routed to be outside of the headlight bucket along with the control unit for cooling purposes.
They only got lukewarm during use, i checked many times but the led die ( the little light emitting semiconductor ) still failed well within the advertised period, however the high beam still worked fine as did the little control box.
So the unit did not meet the expectation in the real world unfortunately but like i mentioned it was very good when it worked, cheers.
"Here is a picture of my expired led unit, it worked very well when it was still working but it had a very short lifespan of maybe 500 hours unfortunately;"
is the nice led replacement unit i had installed on my cb1100, it had good feedback and passive cooling braids which were routed to be outside of the headlight bucket along with the control unit for cooling purposes.
They only got lukewarm during use, i checked many times but the led die ( the little light emitting semiconductor ) still failed well within the advertised period, however the high beam still worked fine as did the little control box.
So the unit did not meet the expectation in the real world unfortunately but like i mentioned it was very good when it worked, cheers.
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