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ChipBeck_imp
Road warrior
The thread title is 2015 CB, but the article is about the 2014 bike. Looking at Honda's web site and talking to the dealers it's looking more and more like the grand old air cooled CB1100 is toast. There will be no 2015 CB. Bummer.
Chip
Chip
It may end up like the ST1300 and the VFR1200. Still on their site even though they haven't produced a new version in years. It's a shame. In any event, I think the review nailed it. A great bike but a bit overpriced for what you get. I'll confess plainly I probably overpaid. But, so what? When it's what you want and you can't find it elsewhere you "pay the man."
rjk555_imp
Running like a top
“I never thought I’d say an 1100 would make a great beginner bike, but the CB1100 really would"
I think that was a compliment.
I think that was a compliment.
ChipBeck_imp
Road warrior
Gentlemen,
Yesterday on the way to dinner my son and I traded bikes for the 25 mile ride. His Ducati 796 felt like a paint shaker compared to my CB1100. And even with his trick carbon fiber slip on's the Duck still didn't have the snarling growl of my Staintune. My CB11 was more comfortable and felt like a better handling bike too. This is such a great bike.
Chip
Yesterday on the way to dinner my son and I traded bikes for the 25 mile ride. His Ducati 796 felt like a paint shaker compared to my CB1100. And even with his trick carbon fiber slip on's the Duck still didn't have the snarling growl of my Staintune. My CB11 was more comfortable and felt like a better handling bike too. This is such a great bike.
Chip
Two quotes from the different threads on this article. I'd be interested to hear (read?) other views. Mine is that it suggests that the author of the statement either knows mountains more than me or has lost the plot. Was it meant to be a compliment? Was he saying it's such a beautifully mannered and balanced bike that even a beginner could ride it? Or was it part of the 'faint praise'? Was he saying it was such a boring and gutless bike that even a beginner could ride it. I can't make up my mind.rjk555_imp said:
I also know it doesn't really matter what he thinks, except ........ people in positions of influence, however minor, shouldn't peddle nonsense that might influence people. The idea that a beginner could easily ride an 1100cc motorcycle, even one as charming and well behaved as the CB1100, is surely nonsensical. Even the power-reduced 650 cc bikes that learners and novice riders can ride in Australia are probably too big for many. It's not just power; there's also the weight of the things to be considered. Then there's the combination of those two factors.
My $0.02 worth. :beerchug:
Randy B
Road warrior
Cormanus_imp said:
Two quotes from the different threads on this article. I'd be interested to hear (read?) other views. Mine is that it suggests that the author of the statement either knows mountains more than me or has lost the plot. Was it meant to be a compliment? Was he saying it's such a beautifully mannered and balanced bike that even a beginner could ride it? Or was it part of the 'faint praise'? Was he saying it was such a boring and gutless bike that even a beginner could ride it. I can't make up my mind.rjk555_imp said:
I also know it doesn't really matter what he thinks, except ........ people in positions of influence, however minor, shouldn't peddle nonsense that might influence people. The idea that a beginner could easily ride an 1100cc motorcycle, even one as charming and well behaved as the CB1100, is surely nonsensical. Even the power-reduced 650 cc bikes that learners and novice riders can ride in Australia are probably too big for many. It's not just power; there's also the weight of the things to be considered. Then there's the combination of those two factors.
My $0.02 worth. :beerchug:
I tend to agree with you Cor. It's not just how well mannered it is at all, but the weight of the bike. EVERYONE will drop their first bike at least once and 99% of new riders have no clue on how to safely/properly pick up a bike once it's been dumped. So the lighter the bike is, the better off they will be all around. Most likely there will be less damage to the bike and possibly less damage to the rider as well with the smaller, lighter bike.
ChipBeck_imp
Road warrior
Guth,Guth_imp said:
Yes we did. Charley had ridden my CB11 before he got the Ducati but it had been a while. He really wanted a Ducati because of the "cool factor". But getting back on the CB11 was eye opening for him. He was clearly surprised at how good it was and remarked that it was every bit as fast as his 796, much smoother and far more comfortable. He also said it handled great and effortlessly. In his own way he told me that if the CB11 was a Ducati, he would prefer it to the 796. BUT, the trump card is (in Charley's words) pulling up to his friends house on that bright red Italian bike, pulling his helmet off, and shaking his hair out in slow motion with the girls looking on! He says the Duck performs better in that mode.
Charley sounded almost a bit disappointed admitting how much he liked the CB11 compared to his Ducati and that's the truth. I've ridden both quite a bit and the CB11 is so superior as a sport/cruiser that it's no contest. If every potential customer rode both bikes, nobody would buy the Ducati unless they just had to have an Italian bike. Cheers.
Chip
the Ferret
Road warrior
Chip our sons think on the same level only mine has no hair to shake. Here he is on his Duc 696 with his wife on her Ninja. He also thinks my CB 1100 is an awesome bike but he wanted a Duc since he was a kid and his wife bought it for him as a wedding present (he also rides a Yamaha FZ-1 but is getting the itch for something new)
rboe
Road warrior
Duc's have great PR, like Harley's. Most of us get sucked into the image at some point. Hopefully, at some point, we find other aspects more important. 
NightRider_imp
Been there
ST is "righteous" and too groovy. CBs are a groovy kind of love. .
Inline4_imp
Been there
Outstanding! As a matter of fact, I want a t-shirt with those words of wisdom.Rboe_imp said:Duc's have great PR, like Harley's. Most of us get sucked into the image at some point. Hopefully, at some point, we find other aspects more important.
Well-played Rboe.
:beerchug:
rboe
Road warrior
:worship:
Zazzle.com, you can create your own t-shirt. I've bought a couple Guzzi shirts, made a Royal Enfield t-shirt for a buddy (another Guzzi rider turned me on to them) and it appears Guth is aware of them.
Zazzle.com, you can create your own t-shirt. I've bought a couple Guzzi shirts, made a Royal Enfield t-shirt for a buddy (another Guzzi rider turned me on to them) and it appears Guth is aware of them.
linuxology_imp
Running like a top
Big rotors on that Ducati
Siggy Javotnik_imp
Running like a top
Cormanus_imp said:
Two quotes from the different threads on this article. I'd be interested to hear (read?) other views. Mine is that it suggests that the author of the statement either knows mountains more than me or has lost the plot. Was it meant to be a compliment? Was he saying it's such a beautifully mannered and balanced bike that even a beginner could ride it? Or was it part of the 'faint praise'? Was he saying it was such a boring and gutless bike that even a beginner could ride it. I can't make up my mind.rjk555_imp said:
I also know it doesn't really matter what he thinks, except ........ people in positions of influence, however minor, shouldn't peddle nonsense that might influence people. The idea that a beginner could easily ride an 1100cc motorcycle, even one as charming and well behaved as the CB1100, is surely nonsensical. Even the power-reduced 650 cc bikes that learners and novice riders can ride in Australia are probably too big for many. It's not just power; there's also the weight of the things to be considered. Then there's the combination of those two factors.
My $0.02 worth. :beerchug:
I wasn't upset by that "great beginner's bike" comment -- I took it as, "It's a confidence-inspiring, smooth, well-balanced bike from the get-go." My dad came into town this summer, and it was an easy choice which bike to put him on, between my Guzzi and the CB -- the CB. No quirks, just turn the key and enjoy. :beerchug:
rboe
Road warrior
Hmm, many of these comments come from very experienced riders. Who we could hear from; true beginners. When we get down to brass tacks, these are heavy bikes and beginners don't need a heavy bike to learn on; no matter how well mannered (some riders can handle the weight, but on average, your typical learner has better things to do than cope with the weight).
The Stelvio is definitely no beginers bike. Tall, heavy, she is a beast! Especially with her tank filled up. I looked hard at the Stelvio (a buddy picked up a 2014 and every time I see it I'm seduced by her) but still decided that I just did not want to deal with the weight. Especially on a tall bike. My much lighter XR650L can be son of a gun to right, just because she is so tall. Oiy!
I wonder how many other Honda Guzzi owner combo's we have here.
The Stelvio is definitely no beginers bike. Tall, heavy, she is a beast! Especially with her tank filled up. I looked hard at the Stelvio (a buddy picked up a 2014 and every time I see it I'm seduced by her) but still decided that I just did not want to deal with the weight. Especially on a tall bike. My much lighter XR650L can be son of a gun to right, just because she is so tall. Oiy!
I wonder how many other Honda Guzzi owner combo's we have here.
Dakota_imp
Running like a top
I am a fairly new rider and I was intimidated by the CB even after riding smaller bikes for 2 or three years. I feel relatively comfortable on it after riding it for a year but agree that a smaller, lighter bike would be a better choice for a beginner.
mgoodie_imp
Running like a top
Im coming from the other direction (Harley Street Glide to CB1100) and this thing feels small and light and oh so much more confidence in my ability. I believe it could be a beginner bike for someone who has the ability to adjust quickly but I would not recommend for most.
