60 - 0 Braking Distance

[postoak_imp]

Does anyone know the figure for 60 - 0 braking distance for the CB1100 (in any or all of its guises)?

[WallaceBod_imp]

I'd like to know this too without having to test it myself!

[Nortoon_imp]

I never stopped to measure, but by down gearing and grabbing a fistful of front brake I was able to avoid several deer, wild turkeys, and a black bear on my CB500XA.

I learned to ride big bikes on British motorcycles which had lousy brakes, so down gearing to slow down is part of my DNA. The only time I use a back brake is slowly ascending steep hills on sandy or gravel roads.

Never had a problem with a rear disk until now. My dealer just replaced the rear disk and brake pads on my 2017 CB1100 EX under warranty because the pads scored the disc and discoloured it with heat. They tried to say I must have ridden it with my foot on the brake pedal. I told them I never use the rear brake and never had this problem with any other motorcycle.

Apparently the new pads have metal in them, and need to be broken in. So they encouraged me to use the rear brake when stopping. On my day rides on the back roads stop signs are about half an hour apart, but I tried. What a mushy brake! I could do better dragging my feet. I am glad I didn't rely on this. However if it stops the rear brake from dragging on the rear wheel, I will continue trying.

[postoak_imp]

Yeah, I'm wanting an actual number to compare to the Triumph T120. My 2013 CB1100 brakes were really good but then the bike didn't come to me until it had 1600 miles so I don't know if break-in was required.

The T120 I rode had pretty bad brakes but the Triumph guys are telling me brake-in is required. I'm skeptical. I'm wondering if the owners didn't just get used to their brakes.

I certainly wouldn't buy a bike I didn't like with the proviso that I'll like it in a couple of weeks. What if I don't, what then?

There are no aftermarket brakes for the T120 yet.

[Houtman_imp]

The first time I took my 2017 out I did not like the rear brake. ( I do not use the rear brake a LOT )
However on the second and third ride I found the rear brake much better ,perhaps the dealer is right about breaking the rear brake in.
The front was perfect from the very beginning.

[the Ferret]

|BRAKING DISTANCE| |FROM 30 MPH|33 ft.| |FROM 60 MPH|131 ft.|

http://www.cycleworld.com/2013/07/02/201...ecs#page-3

This is for the 2013.

Realize that braking distances involve many factors... experience of rider, rider reaction time, weight of rider, type of tires, surface adhesion, weight of bike, type of brake pads, whether it has ABS or not

BTW I use my rear brake nearly every time I brake, either hard or soft. Unless the rear wheel is off the ground the rear brake provides some stopping power. I've heard 80%/20% front/rear... heard other figures too, but the point being even if it's 90%/10%... if I need to stop why give up any (even 10% ) of my ability to stop by not using the rear brakes? I have emergency braked many times and never lifted the rear wheel off the ground. I let the rear brake do some of the work.

[postoak_imp]

Thanks Ferret! Perhaps the Triumph guys are correct then because the number for the T120 was given by Cycleworld as 129 feet. I assume they have some standard methodology.

Yeah, I've always used both front and rear brakes. Especially as I'm coming to a stop, at the end I lighten up on the front brakes and apply more back brake. It seems to stabilize the bike and makes it easier to keep upright.

[Rocky_imp]

Thanks Ferret! Perhaps the Triumph guys are correct then because the number for the T120 was given by Cycleworld as 129 feet. I assume they have some standard methodology.

Yeah, I've always used both front and rear brakes. Especially as I'm coming to a stop, at the end I lighten up on the front brakes and apply more back brake. It seems to stabilize the bike and makes it easier to keep upright.

I've always used both brakes too and that's how I brake in a normal braking situation.
Too each his own of course, but I agree with ferret about not giving up any braking power.

[Nortoon_imp]

Using both brakes is something I will have to practice to break the old habit.
Having a good back brake would be useful in an emergency situation.

In gears above third I usually just down gear without braking.
From three down I use the front brakes.
I will try to use the rear brake as well.

When I am in first gear and intend to make a complete stop at a red light or busy intersection, I use the front brake only as I extend both feet from the pegs.

But if I am approaching a quiet intersection to make a turn, I look both ways and slow to a pause with my feet up. Another bad habit perfected by a lot experienced riders if you watch the videos.

Unfortunately with a top heavy motorcycle, if you had to make a sudden stop with the wheels turned the bike is going to pitch sideways. Getting your foot down and trying to stop a 560 pound porker from taking a nap would be almost impossible. So that's another bad habit I will have to break.

[postoak_imp]

Hey, I just found a link on Motorcycle Consumer News that shows statistics for just about every motorcycle. It's dated 2014 and I would link to it if I knew how but it is a download on my computer.

Anyway here are some 60-0 stopping distances:

2013 - 136 feet

2014 Deluxe - 124.27 feet

Honda 2014 Valkyrie - 123.7 feet

That's pretty good for the 754 pound Valkyrie!

0-100 times were:

2013 - 10.73 secs

2014 Deluxe - 7.88 secs

2014 Valkyrie - 9.5 secs

I wasn't aware that the Deluxe was supposed to be faster than the 2013, especially since it is heavier.