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I was poking around the BMW dealership today and came across a pamphlet for an extended warranty they sell. The warranty can be purchased for either new or used bikes, but for used bikes there's an interesting caveat: If the bike is a Honda, Suzuki, Kawasaki, or Yamaha, it has to be 12 model years old or newer, and must have less than 24,000 miles. All other bikes must be 6 model years old or newer and have less than 12,000 miles. I found that to be quite an indictment considering I was in a BMW shop!
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No surprise there. I'm one of those people who value reliability above all else. Nothing worse that being 1000 miles from home when problems show up.
I learned decades ago (after owning an HD an old Triumph and a Duc) that you can't go wrong with one of the Japanese big 4 for overall reliability.
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That is indeed a testament.
Was the shop a genuine BMW dealership, or an independent that happen to sell BMWs as its marque line? (if that is even possible)
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Ha, ha, ha tells you right away, which bikes are better quality = made in Japan

LR, what in your stable???
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(01-19-2019, 08:46 AM)Flynrider_imp Wrote: No surprise there. I'm one of those people who value reliability above all else. Nothing worse that being 1000 miles from home when problems show up.
I learned decades ago (after owning an HD an old Triumph and a Duc) that you can't go wrong with one of the Japanese big 4 for overall reliability.
How goes the search for a 2017?
you should have bought a DELUXE
2014 Honda CB1100 DLX
2002 Honda CB750 Nighthawk
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It's a large, independent authorized BMW / Triumph dealership. I've known the owners for years. We don't have BMW factory-owned stores in the U.S.
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(01-19-2019, 11:32 AM)clearviewx_imp Wrote: (01-19-2019, 08:46 AM)Flynrider_imp Wrote: No surprise there. I'm one of those people who value reliability above all else. Nothing worse that being 1000 miles from home when problems show up.
I learned decades ago (after owning an HD an old Triumph and a Duc) that you can't go wrong with one of the Japanese big 4 for overall reliability.
How goes the search for a 2017?
I gave it up. My new bike budget was completely eaten up by an unexpected airplane expense. Looks like it'll be about a year before my finances recover.
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(01-19-2019, 12:33 PM)LongRanger_imp Wrote: It's a large, independent authorized BMW / Triumph dealership. I've known the owners for years. We don't have BMW factory-owned stores in the U.S.
Well that is cool. Any bias is mitigated by promoting multiple brands. Glad to read Japanese bikes get some extra respect.
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A few years ago, Consumer Reports did a report on motorcycle reliability. They found owners reported problems on Yamaha, Kawasaki, and Honda at 11%, 13%, and 14% respectively. H-D and BMW came in at 24% and 30%, yet oddly enough, they had the highest owner loyalty.
What was that saying about a fool and his money.........?
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Those are surprising stats - for me anyway, except for the said Japanese brands. I reckon the Italian brands didn't make the shortlist.