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very lucky

indeed
I don't know enough about the specific Honda design to judge whether any article written by an outsider is applicable here or not. The mentioned article provides for interesting read (thank you !), but it is too general to (let me) conclude whether or not Honda has done a shoddy design or not. What I do know from my line of work is that such problems can easily be avoided by proper design.
Finally, would you hazard a guess why the CB's UM does not mention such risks (p.62 for the 2017 model) ?
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(12-04-2020, 09:22 PM)j3gq_imp Wrote: very lucky
indeed
I don't know enough about the specific Honda design to judge whether any article written by an outsider is applicable here or not. The mentioned article provides for interesting read (thank you !), but it is too general to (let me) conclude whether or not Honda has done a shoddy design or not. What I do know from my line of work is that such problems can easily be avoided by proper design.
Finally, would you hazard a guess why the CB's UM does not mention such risks (p.62 for the 2017 model) ?
I won't pretend to be an engineer of any sort, I can just share my own experiences and information I have read (quoting the source as you could see)
So why something is not mentioned somewhere would be a stretch for my imagination. I can tell you one thing though, nothing and no one is flawless and perfect, everyone is prone to oversights and mistakes, and Honda, as good as it is, is no different. I have owned at least 7 different Honda motorcycles, two of which I own currently, and I have ridden many more. My experience is that they all their quirks and flaws, so let's not idealize Honda and present it as some kind of an design and engineering champion.
In my opinion, Honda is what it is, when it comes to excellent track record or reliability, because of extremely highly developed manufacturing process and quality control, and keyword there is PRECISE. That is where Honda is superior, everything else is up for grabs
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Having owned at least 15 Honda motor cycles and 3 Honda cars I can say that they are not perfect but more perfect than me as the owner but of course everybody already know this.
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@all : batt. charging riddle / if one could not safely disconnect the CB's battery (as this thread suggests), and given that most chargers/minders warn you not to charge the battery without disconnecting first ... how do you charge your battery when needed ? Are you
- ignoring the charger manual, or
- are you all having ECU problems all the time ?
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(12-08-2020, 12:55 AM)j3gq_imp Wrote: @all : batt. charging riddle / if one could not safely disconnect the CB's battery (as this thread suggests), and given that most chargers/minders warn you not to charge the battery without disconnecting first ... how do you charge your battery when needed ? Are you
- ignoring the charger manual, or
- are you all having ECU problems all the time ?
Why so extreme? No. Definitely not all the time, but it's something that is possible to happen, and if you take precautions and know what to expect, you have the upper hand. Think of it as popping the blue pill, it's possible to experience blushing, tachycardia, headaches etc., most of the times you won't, but sometimes you will, and it's not the end of the world, just let the ECU reset itself and off you go
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The vehicle's primary system is supposed to be already disconnected (i.e. ignition switch is completely off). Connect charger to the battery and then plug in the charger. This is the standard approach. Conversely on removal, unplug the charger, then disconnect the charger from the battery.
If one wishes to remove the battery from the vehicle to charge, that is reasonable too. Ensure the ignition switch is completely off before doing it as well as when restoring the battery to the vehicle.
None said is profound.