New Bike Hesitating / Sputtering

[CIP57_imp]

Plug reading will tell the story, its probably not a spark problem so chances are one of the plugs are hot or fouled.

[xNE0x_imp]

Well, my bike sat since the first week of November with reg pump gas in it. Fired right up last week, went 28 miles and no issues. I did put fresh 90 octane ethanol free gas in it after my short ride.

[Guth_imp]

LiveToRide, rest assured, I'm not happy about the situation with my new CB1100 DLX. However, being a "fixer" at work, I'm well aware that me "exploding" or ranting at Honda or the repair guys won't help the situation. So I'm doing my best to be patient.

Chatting with y'all here does help for sure, and perusing the beautiful pics and mods on this board is keeping me going . . .

:-)

I'm really sorry to read of your problems but glad to know that this place is helping you maintain some level of sanity. Here's wishing you a speedy resolution.

[uscgmac_imp]

Why does it take the dealer so long to get plugs? Are we using some crazy special plug of some kind, I don't think it would be an issue to just get some plugs. Even if he didn't stock them, they can be over night ed from anywhere in US. How long has this been going on, any updates. I would definetely think it would be taken care of by now.

[flynrider]

Why does it take the dealer so long to get plugs? Are we using some crazy special plug of some kind, I don't think it would be an issue to just get some plugs. Even if he didn't stock them, they can be over night ed from anywhere in US. How long has this been going on, any updates. I would definetely think it would be taken care of by now.

Yes. The stock plug is an NGK oddball with a very long nose. I haven't seen any other bikes that use it in the cross-reference charts, nor have I seen a compatible version made by another company.

Doesn't explain why it is taking this dealer so long to get them. Just that this plug is not like a standard NGK or ND plug that are commonly stocked.

[uscgmac_imp]

Why does it take the dealer so long to get plugs? Are we using some crazy special plug of some kind, I don't think it would be an issue to just get some plugs. Even if he didn't stock them, they can be over night ed from anywhere in US. How long has this been going on, any updates. I would definetely think it would be taken care of by now.

Yes. The stock plug is an NGK oddball with a very long nose. I haven't seen any other bikes that use it in the cross-reference charts, nor have I seen a compatible version made by another company.

Doesn't explain why it is taking this dealer so long to get them. Just that this plug is not like a standard NGK or ND plug that are commonly stocked.

Yes. The stock plug is an NGK oddball with a very long nose. I haven't seen any other bikes that use it in the cross-reference charts, nor have I seen a compatible version made by another company.

Doesn't explain why it is taking this dealer so long to get them. Just that this plug is not like a standard NGK or ND plug that are commonly stocked.
Well that sucks, why would Honda go out and use such odd ball parts that it becomes an issue to obtain them especially something as simple as plugs. I'm already worried about replacing tires down the road in the future with the odd ball tire sizes. What do you do 5 to 10 years down the line when this bike is just a thing of the past and nobody uses these tire sizes anymore? They should have standardized alot of things.

[xNE0x_imp]

[url=http://www.bikebandit.com/aftermarket-parts/motorcycle-electrical-parts/2014-honda-cb1100-spark-plugs-acc-universal/p4f?m=155474&f=3]http://www.bikebandit.com/aftermarket-pa...155474&f=3

I'd stick with NGK IMHO. I run D8EA's in my 915 kit with Andrews performance ignition coils and wires, 0 issues.

Genuine part # Honda - 31908-MGC-003 - S/PLG (LMAR8A-9S)
(All I could find on it)

[flynrider]

Why does it take the dealer so long to get plugs? Are we using some crazy special plug of some kind, I don't think it would be an issue to just get some plugs. Even if he didn't stock them, they can be over night ed from anywhere in US. How long has this been going on, any updates. I would definetely think it would be taken care of by now.

Yes. The stock plug is an NGK oddball with a very long nose. I haven't seen any other bikes that use it in the cross-reference charts, nor have I seen a compatible version made by another company.

Doesn't explain why it is taking this dealer so long to get them. Just that this plug is not like a standard NGK or ND plug that are commonly stocked.

Yes. The stock plug is an NGK oddball with a very long nose. I haven't seen any other bikes that use it in the cross-reference charts, nor have I seen a compatible version made by another company.

Doesn't explain why it is taking this dealer so long to get them. Just that this plug is not like a standard NGK or ND plug that are commonly stocked.
Well that sucks, why would Honda go out and use such odd ball parts that it becomes an issue to obtain them especially something as simple as plugs. I'm already worried about replacing tires down the road in the future with the odd ball tire sizes. What do you do 5 to 10 years down the line when this bike is just a thing of the past and nobody uses these tire sizes anymore? They should have standardized alot of things.

I believe they went with the long nose plugs for better heat dissipation on the cylinder head.

[url=http://www.bikebandit.com/aftermarket-parts/motorcycle-electrical-parts/2014-honda-cb1100-spark-plugs-acc-universal/p4f?m=155474&f=3]http://www.bikebandit.com/aftermarket-pa...155474&f=3

I'd stick with NGK IMHO. I run D8EA's in my 915 kit with Andrews performance ignition coils and wires, 0 issues.

Genuine part # Honda - 31908-MGC-003 - S/PLG (LMAR8A-9S)
(All I could find on it)

xNE0x, I don't think those plugs that Bike Bandit lists are really compatible. It looks like just a general list of motorcycle plugs that they think might fit a CB11. When in doubt, you can tell an NGK LMAR8A type because the threaded portion is about as long as the ceramic insulator.

So far, Denso and Champion haven't listed a compatible plug in their cross reference charts. NGK doesn't even list an iridium or platinum version. It's a real oddball. (and it seems to be priced accordingly )

[xNE0x_imp]

Why does it take the dealer so long to get plugs? Are we using some crazy special plug of some kind, I don't think it would be an issue to just get some plugs. Even if he didn't stock them, they can be over night ed from anywhere in US. How long has this been going on, any updates. I would definetely think it would be taken care of by now.

Yes. The stock plug is an NGK oddball with a very long nose. I haven't seen any other bikes that use it in the cross-reference charts, nor have I seen a compatible version made by another company.

Doesn't explain why it is taking this dealer so long to get them. Just that this plug is not like a standard NGK or ND plug that are commonly stocked.

Yes. The stock plug is an NGK oddball with a very long nose. I haven't seen any other bikes that use it in the cross-reference charts, nor have I seen a compatible version made by another company.

Doesn't explain why it is taking this dealer so long to get them. Just that this plug is not like a standard NGK or ND plug that are commonly stocked.
Well that sucks, why would Honda go out and use such odd ball parts that it becomes an issue to obtain them especially something as simple as plugs. I'm already worried about replacing tires down the road in the future with the odd ball tire sizes. What do you do 5 to 10 years down the line when this bike is just a thing of the past and nobody uses these tire sizes anymore? They should have standardized alot of things.

I believe they went with the long nose plugs for better heat dissipation on the cylinder head.

[url=http://www.bikebandit.com/aftermarket-parts/motorcycle-electrical-parts/2014-honda-cb1100-spark-plugs-acc-universal/p4f?m=155474&f=3]http://www.bikebandit.com/aftermarket-pa...155474&f=3

I'd stick with NGK IMHO. I run D8EA's in my 915 kit with Andrews performance ignition coils and wires, 0 issues.

Genuine part # Honda - 31908-MGC-003 - S/PLG (LMAR8A-9S)
(All I could find on it)

xNE0x, I don't think those plugs that Bike Bandit lists are really compatible. It looks like just a general list of motorcycle plugs that they think might fit a CB11. When in doubt, you can tell an NGK LMAR8A type because the threaded portion is about as long as the ceramic insulator.

So far, Denso and Champion haven't listed a compatible plug in their cross reference charts. NGK doesn't even list an iridium or platinum version. It's a real oddball. (and it seems to be priced accordingly )

I believe they went with the long nose plugs for better heat dissipation on the cylinder head.

[url=http://www.bikebandit.com/aftermarket-parts/motorcycle-electrical-parts/2014-honda-cb1100-spark-plugs-acc-universal/p4f?m=155474&f=3]http://www.bikebandit.com/aftermarket-pa...155474&f=3

I'd stick with NGK IMHO. I run D8EA's in my 915 kit with Andrews performance ignition coils and wires, 0 issues.

Genuine part # Honda - 31908-MGC-003 - S/PLG (LMAR8A-9S)
(All I could find on it)

xNE0x, I don't think those plugs that Bike Bandit lists are really compatible. It looks like just a general list of motorcycle plugs that they think might fit a CB11. When in doubt, you can tell an NGK LMAR8A type because the threaded portion is about as long as the ceramic insulator.

So far, Denso and Champion haven't listed a compatible plug in their cross reference charts. NGK doesn't even list an iridium or platinum version. It's a real oddball. (and it seems to be priced accordingly )

Yeah I was half asleep when I posted. All they list is the LMAR6A-9, and a LMAR7A-9 and I am not sure those plugs would work. They also make a LKAR8A-9 plug, which also may or may not work.

[treytexag_imp]

Why does it take the dealer so long to get plugs? Are we using some crazy special plug of some kind, I don't think it would be an issue to just get some plugs. Even if he didn't stock them, they can be over night ed from anywhere in US. How long has this been going on, any updates. I would definetely think it would be taken care of by now.

Yes. The stock plug is an NGK oddball with a very long nose. I haven't seen any other bikes that use it in the cross-reference charts, nor have I seen a compatible version made by another company.

Doesn't explain why it is taking this dealer so long to get them. Just that this plug is not like a standard NGK or ND plug that are commonly stocked.

Yes. The stock plug is an NGK oddball with a very long nose. I haven't seen any other bikes that use it in the cross-reference charts, nor have I seen a compatible version made by another company.

Doesn't explain why it is taking this dealer so long to get them. Just that this plug is not like a standard NGK or ND plug that are commonly stocked.
Well that sucks, why would Honda go out and use such odd ball parts that it becomes an issue to obtain them especially something as simple as plugs. I'm already worried about replacing tires down the road in the future with the odd ball tire sizes. What do you do 5 to 10 years down the line when this bike is just a thing of the past and nobody uses these tire sizes anymore? They should have standardized alot of things.

I believe they went with the long nose plugs for better heat dissipation on the cylinder head.

[url=http://www.bikebandit.com/aftermarket-parts/motorcycle-electrical-parts/2014-honda-cb1100-spark-plugs-acc-universal/p4f?m=155474&f=3]http://www.bikebandit.com/aftermarket-pa...155474&f=3

I'd stick with NGK IMHO. I run D8EA's in my 915 kit with Andrews performance ignition coils and wires, 0 issues.

Genuine part # Honda - 31908-MGC-003 - S/PLG (LMAR8A-9S)
(All I could find on it)

xNE0x, I don't think those plugs that Bike Bandit lists are really compatible. It looks like just a general list of motorcycle plugs that they think might fit a CB11. When in doubt, you can tell an NGK LMAR8A type because the threaded portion is about as long as the ceramic insulator.

So far, Denso and Champion haven't listed a compatible plug in their cross reference charts. NGK doesn't even list an iridium or platinum version. It's a real oddball. (and it seems to be priced accordingly )

Even though I'm not paying for the plugs (Honda is), I asked him about them. Don't know the exact price but the Service Manager said they're about 20 bucks a piece. So $80 for 4 plugs!! WOW.

I guess it's been awhile since I shopped for Honda Motorcycle parts . . . .