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Counterfeit Oil Filters
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I mentioned this subject in another thread, but I thought I would start its own thread with what I found out since then. Our CBs originally came with a 15410-MFJ-D01 oil filter made by Riko. The new one I still have was assembled in the U.S.A., but I do not know if that was true for all D01 filters. Recently the D01 filter was replaced by 15410-MFJ-D02, made by Wako. As far as I can tell at this point, the only difference between D01 and D02 is the manufacturer, not the design or materials used.

Unfortunately, like so many other things these days I found that there are Chinese counterfeits of both the D01 and D02 filters. Here is how to spot the fakes:
https://www.1000rr.net/threads/genuine-v...rs.260341/
Included in the link are pictures, comments, and a YouTube video showing all the things to look for. There is also an interesting video showing the difference in filtering quality between genuine and fake Toyota filters. Apparently the fakes typically use less dense filter material than the genuine article. These fakes can be found on eBay, Amazon, and numerous other listings on the internet.

After studying all the info on fakes, I ordered a two pack of the original D01 filters from an eBay seller that was supposed to be a Honda dealer ( found the corresponding dealer web site outside of eBay ). The pictures of the filter in the eBay ad were the genuine article. When the filters arrived, guess what..two fake D02 filters had been substituted, and had all the tell tale signs shown in the above link, including Made In China. Because I knew the D02 is made by Wako, and all the other signs, when I confronted the seller, I got an immediate refund, and a prepaid return label.

This morning I called my local dealer to see if he had D01 filters in stock. Nope, he has the D02 which as we now know, replaced the D01. The last time I bought a D01 at the dealer it was $19.95 for one, which is a little on the steep side, and has been mentioned in other threads. I asked how much for one D02, and was quoted $13.95, which I think is more reasonable. I did mention my eBay issue, and the parts guy told me that they only get their parts direct from Honda. I will update if necessary if I see any difference between the D01 and D02 once I have both to compare side by side.

Biker
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#2
(wow) Seems like a lot of effort and energy went into making the "fake" oil filter.
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#3
yea really..why don't they just make good filters and sell them?
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(04-22-2021, 04:47 AM)GoldOxide_imp Wrote: (wow) Seems like a lot of effort and energy went into making the "fake" oil filter.

Copy the original so you can charge the same, use cheap materials and cheap labor to make at least twice as much money. Worth it to them.
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#5
Wow, glad I use K&N. I don't have to worry about spotting fakes!
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#6
The last 3 number set of the part number, in this case D01 and D02, can be a change of supplier or a minor design change. Honda, like other manufacturers, has alternate suppliers for many items.

If the oil filter manufacturer is running full tilt supplying an order for Subaru, others may have to wait. Right now, there are parts supply line shortages around the world. Honda may have been completely out, which prompts a dealer to look for alternate sources too.

Like it or not, Honda has lots of things made in China (to their spec), and these products can be as good or better than Japanese, US, or German quality. If it's from a Honda dealer, (and all online OEM Honda parts sellers are brick-and-mortar dealers also) selling a fake Honda part is a serious violation of their dealer agreement.

Toyo Rok and Wako Filter are both OEM suppliers based in Japan, and may have plants overseas (Wako does have a plant in China). So that made-in-China filter may be OEM quality.
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(04-22-2021, 05:33 AM)Gone in 60_imp Wrote: Wow, glad I use K&N. I don't have to worry about spotting fakes!

K&N has facilities in China, so it would not be out of the realm of possibility that K&N has been knocked off, just like countless other products these days. Lets face it, how often does anyone scrutinize something as mundane as an oil filter? I think the knock off artists count on that, just like the eBay seller that substituted a counterfeit on me. In my case, I knew what to look for, and didn't let it slide.
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(04-22-2021, 05:33 AM)Gone in 60_imp Wrote: Wow, glad I use K&N. I don't have to worry about spotting fakes!


ROFL
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(04-22-2021, 05:33 AM)Gone in 60_imp Wrote: Wow, glad I use K&N. I don't have to worry about spotting fakes!

ROFL
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(04-22-2021, 06:47 AM)The ferret_imp Wrote:
(04-22-2021, 05:33 AM)Gone in 60_imp Wrote: Wow, glad I use K&N. I don't have to worry about spotting fakes!


ROFL


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(04-22-2021, 06:49 AM)Cormanus_imp Wrote:
(04-22-2021, 05:33 AM)Gone in 60_imp Wrote: Wow, glad I use K&N. I don't have to worry about spotting fakes!

ROFL

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