Compared to the classics .....

[the Ferret]

Comparing it to the classis of yore. Or having fun with numbers

68 Honda CB 750. 67 hp @9000 rpms. Weight 491 wet
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72 Kawasaki Z-1 900.... 82 hp @8500 rpms. Weight 511 dry

80 Suzuki GS 1100 ..... 87 hp @ 8000 rpms Weight 563 wet

78 Yamaha XS 1100 ...95 hp @ 8500 rpms. Weight 630 wet

2013 Honda CB1100 ....87 hp @ 7500 rpms. Weight 540 wet.

Now I also had a 2001 Yamaha FZ 1 with 125 hp that weighed 510 pounds. Its an amazing machine. Trouble is most of those horses come stampeding in between 8,000 and 12000 rpms. Personally, I never rode in that rev range, 100 % of my riding was below 6000 rpms and the FZ made plenty of power for me below 6000 rpms. According to the dyno at 6000 rpms the FZ1 is making 65 hp. The CB will possibly be making more hp than the FZ in the rev range I rode in.

My ST 1300 makes about 92 horses @ 6000 rpms (and peak at 112 hp @8000 rpms).... Thats pretty good, and a little more powerful than the CB 1100 for real world riding, but it weighs 716 wet.

[ChipBeck_imp]

Ferret,

When you and I were in high school that 82 HP Z-1 was an all conquering beast capable of humbling the hottest 60's muscle cars. Today somehow our lighter and more powerful CB11 is considered a sedate old man's bike. Like you, I've had a couple real sport bikes that I never was able to explore the limits of because they were beyond my riding abilities. But like that old Z-1, the CB11 will humble just about any performance car built today. Now with 900+ miles on my bike I had a ZR-1 Corvette "give it a go" trying to best me on a two lane freeway on ramp. My Staintune was screaming at 8000+ rpm as the big CB walked away from that Corvette. The vet driver and I exchanged thumbs up when he caught up to me on the freeway. This bike is plenty fast for this old man. Cheers.

Chip

[rboe]

My Griso will smoke this bike, and not being governed will do about 150. Well beyond my pucker factor. Handling is better, motor feels better at freeway speeds but darn it, not nearly as comfortable. It is also sneaky fast if I'm not on top of it all the time. The CB has plenty of power, lets you know when it's going fast or accelerating. And so much easier to ride in town. Much more civilized. It has some poop, but it hides it rather well. The Griso likes to show it off.

[the Ferret]

Ferret,

When you and I were in high school that 82 HP Z-1 was an all conquering beast capable of humbling the hottest 60's muscle cars. Today somehow our lighter and more powerful CB11 is considered a sedate old man's bike. Like you, I've had a couple real sport bikes that I never was able to explore the limits of because they were beyond my riding abilities. But like that old Z-1, the CB11 will humble just about any performance car built today. Now with 900+ miles on my bike I had a ZR-1 Corvette "give it a go" trying to best me on a two lane freeway on ramp. My Staintune was screaming at 8000+ rpm as the big CB walked away from that Corvette. The vet driver and I exchanged thumbs up when he caught up to me on the freeway. This bike is plenty fast for this old man. Cheers.

Chip

Lol High School?

I was out of high school when the original CB 750 came out. I had quit College and was selling motorcycles full time when the Z1 came out. The best muscle cars imo came out in my junior and senior years of high school 67 and 68. Fast back Mustangs, Camaros, Chevelles, Novas, Corvettes, GTO's,..th ose were some cars!

[HondaJon_imp]

I had a 2002 Hayabusa and a 2008 B-King. Both of these bikes were incredible, but I could only ride them to about 40% of their capability, plus, trying to find an area to "open them up" is difficult where I live. My current team of the XR650L and the CB1100 are more realistic, I enjoy these two machines far more than I did the others....Maybe it's age, or that all I do all week is rush, rush, rush. I don't know, but I do know that I ride my current team about 200% more.

[_imp]

My Griso will smoke this bike, and not being governed will do about 150. Well beyond my pucker factor. Handling is better, motor feels better at freeway speeds but darn it, not nearly as comfortable. It is also sneaky fast if I'm not on top of it all the time. The CB has plenty of power, lets you know when it's going fast or accelerating. And so much easier to ride in town. Much more civilized. It has some poop, but it hides it rather well. The Griso likes to show it off.

Sounds just right to me.

[ChipBeck_imp]

My Griso will smoke this bike, and not being governed will do about 150. Well beyond my pucker factor. Handling is better, motor feels better at freeway speeds but darn it, not nearly as comfortable. It is also sneaky fast if I'm not on top of it all the time. The CB has plenty of power, lets you know when it's going fast or accelerating. And so much easier to ride in town. Much more civilized. It has some poop, but it hides it rather well. The Griso likes to show it off.

Rboe,

True, but the Griso will smoke most of the air cooled Ducati's as well with its 110 HP. But hey, it costs about 30% more than the CB11. IMO that is the best looking bike that Moto Guzzi has ever built and one I would certainly consider buying. Everybody knows what a Moto Guzzi is and looks like, but very few people have actually owned one (that includes me) and their exclusivity is one of the factors that makes them cool. Especially the Grizo.

Chip

[the Ferret]

My brother had a 73 850 Eldorado. It was a heck of a bike. Most comfortable seat Ive ever ridden on. Truly all day comfortable. I looked to buy a 750 Breva before I bought my Bonneville, but it 's lack of power, weak brakes and small looking cylinders didnt do it for me. I bet an 1100 big cylinder model would do it.

[jamboa_imp]

My brother had a 73 850 Eldorado. It was a heck of a bike. Most comfortable seat Ive ever ridden on. Truly all day comfortable. I looked to buy a 750 Breva before I bought my Bonneville, but it 's lack of power, weak brakes and small looking cylinders didnt do it for me. I bet an 1100 big cylinder model would do it.

i had an 1100 M/G Basso and M/G Griso! cool bikes with alotvof character but what I did not consider character was the agravvating dry clutch noise with the clutch lever pulled in R D driveline lash? Those two reasons why I don't own one today?

[the Ferret]

Lol don't buy a Ducati then. It is an irritating noise.