BADSEEDS CB1100 - officially sold in France - Opinions?

[Riko_imp]

why don't they sell it in North America?

as I sad in my first post

its a French company that does custom jobs for all sorts of bikes...surely you cannot expect this small company to make/export on a worldwide scale, they aren't....Honda.

And Honda isn't taking the production over.

So, there's that.

why don't they sell it in North America?

Because US buyers are stereotyped as being interested in cruisers, sport bikes, and nothing else. It took years of hoorah from the moto-journos just to get Honda to bring over the CB at all. The likelyhood of them selling enough of a high-end version to warrant importing them is pretty low.

You have to remember we're the odd ducks in this market. Quack quack.

Because US buyers are stereotyped as being interested in cruisers, sport bikes, and nothing else. It took years of hoorah from the moto-journos just to get Honda to bring over the CB at all. The likelyhood of them selling enough of a high-end version to warrant importing them is pretty low.

You have to remember we're the odd ducks in this market. Quack quack.
Well the CB is no doubt a nice bike, I heard many reactions on various boards that ppl find it a beautiful bike, but the price is too high (for what you get)

I can understand that.

All I need is a list of parts then...

indeed, and in my earlier post here somewhere I mentioned "badseeds" cowl

but I think its just a know cowl with custom paintjob and stickers...will verify that.
edit: okay its not 100% the same, but the lines are similar to the ChicDesign front cowl

[enzo_imp]

I like mine just the way it is and...................
as our frends in America would say ,,,,,I just farkeld it with 2, yes 2 black thingamagings.
I havent taken Bruce out yet, but I have noticed a bit of a change in looks.

[the Ferret]

why don't they sell it in North America?

as I sad in my first post

its a French company that does custom jobs for all sorts of bikes...surely you cannot expect this small company to make/export on a worldwide scale, they aren't....Honda.

And Honda isn't taking the production over.

So, there's that.

why don't they sell it in North America?

Because US buyers are stereotyped as being interested in cruisers, sport bikes, and nothing else. It took years of hoorah from the moto-journos just to get Honda to bring over the CB at all. The likelyhood of them selling enough of a high-end version to warrant importing them is pretty low.

You have to remember we're the odd ducks in this market. Quack quack.

Because US buyers are stereotyped as being interested in cruisers, sport bikes, and nothing else. It took years of hoorah from the moto-journos just to get Honda to bring over the CB at all. The likelyhood of them selling enough of a high-end version to warrant importing them is pretty low.

You have to remember we're the odd ducks in this market. Quack quack.
Well the CB is no doubt a nice bike, I heard many reactions on various boards that ppl find it a beautiful bike, but the price is too high (for what you get)

I can understand that.

All I need is a list of parts then...

indeed, and in my earlier post here somewhere I mentioned "badseeds" cowl

but I think its just a know cowl with custom paintjob and stickers...will verify that.
edit: okay its not 100% the same, but the lines are similar to the ChicDesign front cowl

Yea, I DON'T understand that. What is it I didn't get? I mean I bought a great motorcycle that runs perfectly looks great, one that I love to look at just sitting there, and love it even more when I ride it. It's got plenty of power, great brakes, slick clutch and transmission, beautiful paint and chrome, handles better than I can ride it. It will be a naked roadster one day, a sport tourer the next day with the addition of a small shield and soft bags. I could even make it into a cafe' with a few well chosen accessories. My CB is worth every penny I paid for it and then some IMO. There is not another bike on the market I would want more at ANY price.

You can see in my sig line I've owned a lot of bikes. I know what I value in a bike and the CB 1100 far exceeds those values. I couldn't be happier with my choice in motorcycles. I could have bought any bike on the market and chose the CB 1100..

[Riko_imp]

I am judging prices from a European forum, more specific, German.
The German and Belgian prices are similar, for the EX version you pay about 17.000 USD. (12.000 euro), a little over that...12.290 euro.

ps: in Holland (for some unknow reason THE MOST EXPENSIVE COUNTRY to purchase a motorcycle compared to the rest of the EU) you pay 14.000 euro! Thats about 19.400 USD!

When I compare this bike with a Triumph Thruxton, wich is the most expensive Triumph in their modern classic range, that one costs a little less than 13.350 USD (9.650 euro), so thats a difference of about 4K.

True, the Triumph modern classic do not have dual front disc, nor (linked) ABS.
They have about 20HP and 20nm less.
And their front and rear suspension isnt great.

Other than that, they all share the same goodies as you summed up with your CB:
- slick clutch and transmission, beautiful paint and chrome
+ they got tons of extra's from aftermarket manufacturers all over the world, going from simple gauge brackets and slick key solutions to exhaust pipes and engine upgrades.

That said, its no wonder to me that more ppl look towards Triumph rather than Honda.
Figures in Germany prove this:
http://www.ivm-ev.de/ivm_performance_201...tisticId=1
No CB1100 to be seen...

And I figure in the US the figures are even more great for the classic Triumphs since they seem WAAAY more popular based on their online community.
Something that the CB1100 does not seem to have (yet, I hope).

I blame this mostly on the price. Than again, Honda is not know as being cheap! Not in their price nor in the quality they make.
You pay for quality.

Dont get me wrong, I am a Honda fan, big time!
My dreambike is a F6B, and I just love the brand in general.
And because of the CB1100 I fell i love with the whole cafe racer type bikes/world. It introduced me to those kind of modern classic bikes.
Most importanly, I can see myself riding a CB1100 wanting nothing else (besides a F6B )

But when I started comparing specs and prices, than yes, I find myself a Triumph lover.
I was/am (not sure) planning to buy a Thruxton and pimp it out (upgrade suspension, tubeless spoke wheels, exhaust, etc) to look like a cool cafe racer. I even test rode a Thruxton.

However, as a Honda fan, I cannot exclude the fact that I will buy a good second hand CB1100 IF the opportunity should arise.
You can make both bikes look like absolute stunners, and on the technical side, the Honda has a slight lead:
- bigger engine: double the cilinders, more cc
- bigger figures
- excellent braking specs
You obviously pay the higher price because of those better characteristics compared to the Thruxton.

However, to make the bike look like I want it to look, would make a big total compared to the cheaper Thruxton, wich in all honesty, isnt too far behind the CB1100.
So when you look at what you get for you money, the Thruxton is a real and serious oponent for the CB1100, as much as I hate to admit it.
The days Triumph engines had a rep for leaking all kinds of fluids is long over, its safe to say they have equal quality on those who are know as the reference in the engine building world, the Japanese.
And those Triumph engine block also look very attractive btw.

So its strange, my mind says Triumph (mind = rational = think value for money)
But I bet that when I got the best looking Triumph and I see a CB1100, my heart will start speaking...so dunno yet what will win the battle, the heart or the mind

So in that sence its nice to read the experiences of an enthusiastic CB owner as yourself

[Barkingshins_imp]

When I was shopping for a new bike last Fall, I eventually got it narrowed down to either the Thruxton or the CB. What ended up knocking me off the fence was Honda's reputation for quality and those silly fuel injectors on all the modern Triumph Classics that are designed to look like carburetors... for some reason, I couldn't get past that. Disguising components to look like something they are not crossed a line for me.

[jimigalahad_imp]

At the risk of going even more off topic, I can understand the money issue for people. I had my bike decision narrowed down to the cb or a street triple. The CB was at least $2k more. I know lots of people adore riding the street triple. When you look at all the performance specs, it's hard to ignore. But the CB really is my dream bike and I love honda, especially that is was made in the Japan factory and feels like Honda put a lot of love into it, so I made the "silly" decision of buying an "overpriced, heavy, and slow" beauty of a bike. One I'm very proud to own and hope to ride into my sunset.

[enzo_imp]

"overpriced, heavy, and slow"
On ya Jim, we'r all end up that way.

[skimhitz_imp]

why don't they sell it in North America?

Because US buyers are stereotyped as being interested in cruisers, sport bikes, and nothing else. It took years of hoorah from the moto-journos just to get Honda to bring over the CB at all. The likelyhood of them selling enough of a high-end version to warrant importing them is pretty low.

You have to remember we're the odd ducks in this market. Quack quack.

I don't think it's just a stereotype. This isn't Honda's first rodeo. As much as we all love the CB1100, alot of dealers got in what, 1 or 2 of them, and many still have leftover bikes. It pales in comparison to the sales of supersports and cruisers. Every now and then, a company will go "Okay, we'll bite and give this a try", and we end up with bikes like the Kawasaki W800, Ducati GT1000, and the Honda CB1100. But I have no doubt that 2 or 3 years from now, when all the people who were waiting for the return of the classic CB have bought theirs, that sales will decline, Honda will stop bringing it over, and we'll lament again why they don't bring over the "cool" bikes.

why don't they sell it in North America?

as I sad in my first post

its a French company that does custom jobs for all sorts of bikes...surely you cannot expect this small company to make/export on a worldwide scale, they aren't....Honda.

And Honda isn't taking the production over.

So, there's that.

why don't they sell it in North America?

Because US buyers are stereotyped as being interested in cruisers, sport bikes, and nothing else. It took years of hoorah from the moto-journos just to get Honda to bring over the CB at all. The likelyhood of them selling enough of a high-end version to warrant importing them is pretty low.

You have to remember we're the odd ducks in this market. Quack quack.

Because US buyers are stereotyped as being interested in cruisers, sport bikes, and nothing else. It took years of hoorah from the moto-journos just to get Honda to bring over the CB at all. The likelyhood of them selling enough of a high-end version to warrant importing them is pretty low.

You have to remember we're the odd ducks in this market. Quack quack.
Well the CB is no doubt a nice bike, I heard many reactions on various boards that ppl find it a beautiful bike, but the price is too high (for what you get)

I can understand that.

All I need is a list of parts then...

indeed, and in my earlier post here somewhere I mentioned "badseeds" cowl

but I think its just a know cowl with custom paintjob and stickers...will verify that.
edit: okay its not 100% the same, but the lines are similar to the ChicDesign front cowl

Yea, I DON'T understand that. What is it I didn't get? I mean I bought a great motorcycle that runs perfectly looks great, one that I love to look at just sitting there, and love it even more when I ride it. It's got plenty of power, great brakes, slick clutch and transmission, beautiful paint and chrome, handles better than I can ride it. It will be a naked roadster one day, a sport tourer the next day with the addition of a small shield and soft bags. I could even make it into a cafe' with a few well chosen accessories. My CB is worth every penny I paid for it and then some IMO. There is not another bike on the market I would want more at ANY price.

You can see in my sig line I've owned a lot of bikes. I know what I value in a bike and the CB 1100 far exceeds those values. I couldn't be happier with my choice in motorcycles. I could have bought any bike on the market and chose the CB 1100..

I think you inadvertantly hit the nail on the head there. Many people can't buy any bike they want. The CB1100 in Canada is $13200. I'm breaking the ol' piggy bank to afford mine, and for alot of people, $13200, or even $10000, just isn't affordable.

[Cormanus]

I like mine just the way it is and...................
as our frends in America would say ,,,,,I just farkeld it with 2, yes 2 black thingamagings.
I havent taken Bruce out yet, but I have noticed a bit of a change in looks.

Well done, Enzo! Rubber lever end thingies. Way to go! Bruce won't know himself.

[Tortuga_imp]

I am judging prices from a European forum, more specific, German.
The German and Belgian prices are similar, for the EX version you pay about 17.000 USD. (12.000 euro), a little over that...12.290 euro.

ps: in Holland (for some unknow reason THE MOST EXPENSIVE COUNTRY to purchase a motorcycle compared to the rest of the EU) you pay 14.000 euro! Thats about 19.400 USD!

When I compare this bike with a Triumph Thruxton, wich is the most expensive Triumph in their modern classic range, that one costs a little less than 13.350 USD (9.650 euro), so thats a difference of about 4K.

True, the Triumph modern classic do not have dual front disc, nor (linked) ABS.
They have about 20HP and 20nm less.
And their front and rear suspension isnt great.

Other than that, they all share the same goodies as you summed up with your CB:
- slick clutch and transmission, beautiful paint and chrome
+ they got tons of extra's from aftermarket manufacturers all over the world, going from simple gauge brackets and slick key solutions to exhaust pipes and engine upgrades.

That said, its no wonder to me that more ppl look towards Triumph rather than Honda.
Figures in Germany prove this:
http://www.ivm-ev.de/ivm_performance_201...tisticId=1
No CB1100 to be seen...

And I figure in the US the figures are even more great for the classic Triumphs since they seem WAAAY more popular based on their online community.
Something that the CB1100 does not seem to have (yet, I hope).

I blame this mostly on the price. Than again, Honda is not know as being cheap! Not in their price nor in the quality they make.
You pay for quality.

Dont get me wrong, I am a Honda fan, big time!
My dreambike is a F6B, and I just love the brand in general.
And because of the CB1100 I fell i love with the whole cafe racer type bikes/world. It introduced me to those kind of modern classic bikes.
Most importanly, I can see myself riding a CB1100 wanting nothing else (besides a F6B )

But when I started comparing specs and prices, than yes, I find myself a Triumph lover.
I was/am (not sure) planning to buy a Thruxton and pimp it out (upgrade suspension, tubeless spoke wheels, exhaust, etc) to look like a cool cafe racer. I even test rode a Thruxton.

However, as a Honda fan, I cannot exclude the fact that I will buy a good second hand CB1100 IF the opportunity should arise.
You can make both bikes look like absolute stunners, and on the technical side, the Honda has a slight lead:
- bigger engine: double the cilinders, more cc
- bigger figures
- excellent braking specs
You obviously pay the higher price because of those better characteristics compared to the Thruxton.

However, to make the bike look like I want it to look, would make a big total compared to the cheaper Thruxton, wich in all honesty, isnt too far behind the CB1100.
So when you look at what you get for you money, the Thruxton is a real and serious oponent for the CB1100, as much as I hate to admit it.
The days Triumph engines had a rep for leaking all kinds of fluids is long over, its safe to say they have equal quality on those who are know as the reference in the engine building world, the Japanese.
And those Triumph engine block also look very attractive btw.

So its strange, my mind says Triumph (mind = rational = think value for money)
But I bet that when I got the best looking Triumph and I see a CB1100, my heart will start speaking...so dunno yet what will win the battle, the heart or the mind

So in that sence its nice to read the experiences of an enthusiastic CB owner as yourself

Welcome back Calamarichris! Lol.