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Header Discoloration
#11
I just ordered on Amazon. Long stated ship time 4-6 weeks. Will keep you posted


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(06-04-2014, 09:28 PM)Rocky_imp Wrote:
(06-04-2014, 08:45 PM)Gumby 1100_imp Wrote:
(06-04-2014, 12:11 PM)1100rider_imp Wrote: I think the headers are coated with some sort of material. They are not just dis colored but looks like some of the coating is pealing off. That can't be right. I understand that the headers will tarnish and turn brownish but that is not the problem.

The headers are coated with a protective film that the dealer is supposed to wash off prior to running the engine. If they skipped that process, what you see pealing may be the remnants of that film.

Mine are simply turning a uniform gold colour, so my dealership must have washed the headers properly. I am, however, considering ordering the Optiglanz cleaner. The gold doesn't look too bad along with the Spencer Blue tank, but the Canadian model already has so many colours going on, that it might be nice for the exhaust to all be a uniform silver colour.

The headers are coated with a protective film that the dealer is supposed to wash off prior to running the engine. If they skipped that process, what you see pealing may be the remnants of that film.

Mine are simply turning a uniform gold colour, so my dealership must have washed the headers properly. I am, however, considering ordering the Optiglanz cleaner. The gold doesn't look too bad along with the Spencer Blue tank, but the Canadian model already has so many colours going on, that it might be nice for the exhaust to all be a uniform silver colour.
I wonder if it's available in Canada. Sending a liquid across the border might be a problem given the level of security these days.

http://www.wunderlichamerica.com/motorcy...24570.html

I found the Optiglanz here as well for $24 U.S.
However, they want $30.25 to ship U.S.P.S. to Canada!!!

Amazon is probably cheaper in the long run at $28 (not including shipping). They are usually more reasonable for shipping and handling to Canada.

Edit: I just did some research into the "biodegradable active ingredient" in Optiglanz. It is apparently simple phosphoric acid. Therefore, you might get the same cleaning reaction dowsing your headers with Coca-Cola (or any other cola product)! In fact, I have heard of people polishing metal (specifically rusty exhaust pipes) with Coke and aluminum foil. Anyone with more than my grade 13 chemistry, please chime in...
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#13
(06-04-2014, 10:34 PM)Gumby 1100_imp Wrote:
(06-04-2014, 09:28 PM)Rocky_imp Wrote:
(06-04-2014, 08:45 PM)Gumby 1100_imp Wrote:
(06-04-2014, 12:11 PM)1100rider_imp Wrote: I think the headers are coated with some sort of material. They are not just dis colored but looks like some of the coating is pealing off. That can't be right. I understand that the headers will tarnish and turn brownish but that is not the problem.

The headers are coated with a protective film that the dealer is supposed to wash off prior to running the engine. If they skipped that process, what you see pealing may be the remnants of that film.

Mine are simply turning a uniform gold colour, so my dealership must have washed the headers properly. I am, however, considering ordering the Optiglanz cleaner. The gold doesn't look too bad along with the Spencer Blue tank, but the Canadian model already has so many colours going on, that it might be nice for the exhaust to all be a uniform silver colour.

The headers are coated with a protective film that the dealer is supposed to wash off prior to running the engine. If they skipped that process, what you see pealing may be the remnants of that film.

Mine are simply turning a uniform gold colour, so my dealership must have washed the headers properly. I am, however, considering ordering the Optiglanz cleaner. The gold doesn't look too bad along with the Spencer Blue tank, but the Canadian model already has so many colours going on, that it might be nice for the exhaust to all be a uniform silver colour.
I wonder if it's available in Canada. Sending a liquid across the border might be a problem given the level of security these days.

http://www.wunderlichamerica.com/motorcy...24570.html

I found the Optiglanz here as well for $24 U.S.
However, they want $30.25 to ship U.S.P.S. to Canada!!!

Amazon is probably cheaper in the long run at $28 (not including shipping). They are usually more reasonable for shipping and handling to Canada.

Edit: I just did some research into the "biodegradable active ingredient" in Optiglanz. It is apparently simple phosphoric acid. Therefore, you might get the same cleaning reaction dowsing your headers with Coca-Cola (or any other cola product)! In fact, I have heard of people polishing metal (specifically rusty exhaust pipes) with Coke and aluminum foil. Anyone with more than my grade 13 chemistry, please chime in...

http://www.wunderlichamerica.com/motorcy...24570.html

I found the Optiglanz here as well for $24 U.S.
However, they want $30.25 to ship U.S.P.S. to Canada!!!

Amazon is probably cheaper in the long run at $28 (not including shipping). They are usually more reasonable for shipping and handling to Canada.
My order on Amazon was $28 including shipping from the UK to Florida, and by shipping they must mean cruise ship - the estimated delivery dates are 7/1 - 7/15. So I will get to enjoy the brown spots for a good while longer. Tongue
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(06-04-2014, 10:34 PM)Gumby 1100_imp Wrote:
(06-04-2014, 09:28 PM)Rocky_imp Wrote:
(06-04-2014, 08:45 PM)Gumby 1100_imp Wrote:
(06-04-2014, 12:11 PM)1100rider_imp Wrote: I think the headers are coated with some sort of material. They are not just dis colored but looks like some of the coating is pealing off. That can't be right. I understand that the headers will tarnish and turn brownish but that is not the problem.

The headers are coated with a protective film that the dealer is supposed to wash off prior to running the engine. If they skipped that process, what you see pealing may be the remnants of that film.

Mine are simply turning a uniform gold colour, so my dealership must have washed the headers properly. I am, however, considering ordering the Optiglanz cleaner. The gold doesn't look too bad along with the Spencer Blue tank, but the Canadian model already has so many colours going on, that it might be nice for the exhaust to all be a uniform silver colour.

The headers are coated with a protective film that the dealer is supposed to wash off prior to running the engine. If they skipped that process, what you see pealing may be the remnants of that film.

Mine are simply turning a uniform gold colour, so my dealership must have washed the headers properly. I am, however, considering ordering the Optiglanz cleaner. The gold doesn't look too bad along with the Spencer Blue tank, but the Canadian model already has so many colours going on, that it might be nice for the exhaust to all be a uniform silver colour.
I wonder if it's available in Canada. Sending a liquid across the border might be a problem given the level of security these days.

http://www.wunderlichamerica.com/motorcy...24570.html

I found the Optiglanz here as well for $24 U.S.
However, they want $30.25 to ship U.S.P.S. to Canada!!!

Amazon is probably cheaper in the long run at $28 (not including shipping). They are usually more reasonable for shipping and handling to Canada.

Edit: I just did some research into the "biodegradable active ingredient" in Optiglanz. It is apparently simple phosphoric acid. Therefore, you might get the same cleaning reaction dowsing your headers with Coca-Cola (or any other cola product)! In fact, I have heard of people polishing metal (specifically rusty exhaust pipes) with Coke and aluminum foil. Anyone with more than my grade 13 chemistry, please chime in...

http://www.wunderlichamerica.com/motorcy...24570.html

I found the Optiglanz here as well for $24 U.S.
However, they want $30.25 to ship U.S.P.S. to Canada!!!

Amazon is probably cheaper in the long run at $28 (not including shipping). They are usually more reasonable for shipping and handling to Canada.

Edit: I just did some research into the "biodegradable active ingredient" in Optiglanz. It is apparently simple phosphoric acid. Therefore, you might get the same cleaning reaction dowsing your headers with Coca-Cola (or any other cola product)! In fact, I have heard of people polishing metal with Coke and tinfoil, although I'm not sure what effect the tinfoil has since most tinfoil is actually aluminum foil. Anyone with more than my grade 13 chemistry, please chime in...
Amazon states a 4-6 week ship time. However, mine arrived in about one week. The cleaner actually comes from customizedchoppers.com in the UK. The stuff appears to be made in Germany or Austria because I can't understand the words on the bottle. Here are the instructions from the customizedchoppers website:

"OptiGlanz is an excellent product for cleaning stainless steel rims, exhausts or other items made of stainless steel. Just spray on, wait 1-3 minutes then wash it off with clear water. To add shine you can help with a fine sponge to optimise the result.

OptiGlanz cleaner is a high intensity cleaner for all stainless steel surfaces and does not (under normal circumstances) harm paint, chrome, rubber or plastic. However we would recommend covering painted surfaces as a precaution and testing product on a hidden place first. Do not spray on hot surfaces. Biodegradable.

OptiGlanz is an irritant - we recommend you wear proper safety gloves, protective goggles and clothing. If contact with eyes or skin use clean water to wash out and contact a doctor. Keep out of reach of children, do not use in closed rooms."
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#15
Very often in my online shopping in the US, the cost of shipping and handling is as much as the cost of the product - not counting possible customs charges and fees.
Unless I absolutely cannot do without it, I pass on the product or look elsewhere.
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#16
(06-05-2014, 01:45 AM)Rocky_imp Wrote: Very often in my online shopping in the US, the cost of shipping and handling is as much as the cost of the product - not counting possible customs charges and fees.
Unless I absolutely cannot do without it, I pass on the product or look elsewhere.

Well, I'm going to try some cola on a hidden bit of the headers first. Idea
If that works, various phosphoric acid cleaners are available at any hardware store for much less than the cost of Optiglanz delivered to Canada.

The phosphoric acid is supposed to react with the surface of the metal making it less prone to staining in the future, which seems to be the findings of those who have used Optiglanz.
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#17
(06-05-2014, 01:57 AM)Gumby 1100_imp Wrote:
(06-05-2014, 01:45 AM)Rocky_imp Wrote: Very often in my online shopping in the US, the cost of shipping and handling is as much as the cost of the product - not counting possible customs charges and fees.
Unless I absolutely cannot do without it, I pass on the product or look elsewhere.

Well, I'm going to try some cola on a hidden bit of the headers first. Idea
If that works, various phosphoric acid cleaners are available at any hardware store for much less than the cost of Optiglanz delivered to Canada.

The phosphoric acid is supposed to react with the surface of the metal making it less prone to staining in the future, which seems to be the findings of those who have used Optiglanz.

Well, I'm going to try some cola on a hidden bit of the headers first. Idea
If that works, various phosphoric acid cleaners are available at any hardware store for much less than the cost of Optiglanz delivered to Canada.

The phosphoric acid is supposed to react with the surface of the metal making it less prone to staining in the future, which seems to be the findings of those who have used Optiglanz.
I've often heard that Coke can be used as a mild cleaner, but never tried it myself.
Good luck and let us know how it works.
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#18
(06-04-2014, 12:11 PM)1100rider_imp Wrote: I think the headers are coated with some sort of material. They are not just dis colored but looks like some of the coating is pealing off. That can't be right. I understand that the headers will tarnish and turn brownish but that is not the problem.

Nope, your photos show the same crappy stains we all get. It's particularly bad when they are hot and they get wet, as in riding in the rain. There's no coating etc.

You can buff it off with chrome/metal polish, scrub it off with a ScotchBrite pad, or use a chemical cleaner like the Optiglanz. Or you can spend $6,000 to trade in for 2014 DeLuxe with a double-walled chrome header that will be shiny until the day it rusts through from the inside!
(06-05-2014, 02:38 AM)Rocky_imp Wrote:
(06-05-2014, 01:57 AM)Gumby 1100_imp Wrote:
(06-05-2014, 01:45 AM)Rocky_imp Wrote: Very often in my online shopping in the US, the cost of shipping and handling is as much as the cost of the product - not counting possible customs charges and fees.
Unless I absolutely cannot do without it, I pass on the product or look elsewhere.

Well, I'm going to try some cola on a hidden bit of the headers first. Idea
If that works, various phosphoric acid cleaners are available at any hardware store for much less than the cost of Optiglanz delivered to Canada.

The phosphoric acid is supposed to react with the surface of the metal making it less prone to staining in the future, which seems to be the findings of those who have used Optiglanz.

Well, I'm going to try some cola on a hidden bit of the headers first. Idea
If that works, various phosphoric acid cleaners are available at any hardware store for much less than the cost of Optiglanz delivered to Canada.

The phosphoric acid is supposed to react with the surface of the metal making it less prone to staining in the future, which seems to be the findings of those who have used Optiglanz.
I've often heard that Coke can be used as a mild cleaner, but never tried it myself.
Good luck and let us know how it works.

A lot of people around here use it to clean out their bank accounts.
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#19
I've been hearing about cleaning battery terminals with Coke since before I could drive. I even used it for that purpose once. Did a great job on my terminals, but that wasn't the problem. Jeep had a goofy system back in the early 90's where the ECU could tell the alternator not to charge the battery. To most it just looks like you got a bad alternator, until after you replace it, and it still won't charge. Sold it before I found out about what the real problem was.
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#20
The problem is bad genetics, a marriage of AMC with Chrysler and then Fiat. That is some bad juju and cross breeding.


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