The Registry

[Cormanus]

The reason for this post is that KiwiKevin, would you believe a member from New Zealand, notified me the other day that his bike was actually manufactured in 2012. That makes him alone on this forum as having a 2012 manufactured bike. It also means the Registry now lists bikes manufactured in each year from 2010-2014.

It makes me wonder where other bikes manufactured in 2012 were sent and how one ended up in NZ, particularly when the only other one on the register is a 2011 model.

There are currently 258 bikes from 11 countries registered with the forum.

[Randy B]

What is the large date on the neck (or where ever you guys have it), not the manufacture date.
Like so

[Cormanus]

Not sure what you mean, Randy. The manufacture date can be discovered by looking at the 10th digit of the VIN. I don't know about the US but there is often real confusion in OZ about year of manufacture/model year/year of first registration where all those dates can theoretically be different.

[Ridem32_imp]

USA bikes have the date stamped on that tag Randy is showing you. His say 2013 model but above that will be a date can't see it in his pic but it would be like 2/13. Or it could of been built in late 2012. 11/12. But the USA does not change the year model when that bike is a 2013 model is its sold in 2014 its still a 2013 model. I think some UK bike dealers use the date it sold new on to use as year model

[Randy B]

Manufacture date on mine is 1/13 It had to do with CA certification and a new law that went into effect with exhaust systems here. Any bike manufactured after 12/12 it is illegal to modify the exhaust system in any way, so they waited so as not to cause any confusion with the model years and date of manufacture (my guess anyway).

[PowderToastMan_imp]

Actually Randy, I don't think it's necessarily illegal to modify at all the exhaust system for 2013 and later bikes, but just that it's not legal to put any "non-compliant" exhaust system on.
Not sure if that means compliant with noise regulations, emissions, or both...

EDIT -- if this source is correct: http://www.dealernews.com/dealernews/art...xhaust-law
Then it just means any aftermarket exhaust has to have the EPA labeling on it stating that it's compliant with their noise regulations.. and that an officer can't pull you over with this being the primary reason. He has to be citing you for something else first, and then tack this one on.

And, that's not really relevant to this thread, so we could continue the discussion on BARF if needed

[flynrider]

The reason for this post is that KiwiKevin, would you believe a member from New Zealand, notified me the other day that his bike was actually manufactured in 2012. That makes him alone on this forum as having a 2012 manufactured bike. It also means the Registry now lists bikes manufactured in each year from 2010-2014.

It makes me wonder where other bikes manufactured in 2012 were sent and how one ended up in NZ, particularly when the only other one on the register is a 2011 model.

There are currently 258 bikes from 11 countries registered with the forum.

According to Honda's NZ website, the 2012 CB1100 was sold in the NZ market (in black, white and silver). I think the only other market for the 2012 would have been Japan.

[Pterodactyl_imp]

Not sure what you mean, Randy. The manufacture date can be discovered by looking at the 10th digit of the VIN. I don't know about the US but there is often real confusion in OZ about year of manufacture/model year/year of first registration where all those dates can theoretically be different.

Randy' photo shows the Compliance Plate, or label. It shows that, despite the year of manufacture, it is a 2013 MODEL. This is not a Honda Plate as such (?) and is not mentioned in the Honda manual under labels and stamps. Or maybe, if on the steering neck, is listed as safety information. Mine has no label, just a stamped number on the neck. The Aus Compliance plate is attached to the left frame rail. Compliance plates are Legislative requirements and differ between Legislatures. I see Randy's mentions tyre and rim size. Mine, for example, is an Australian plate and has a different appearance to Randy's. The month and year of manufacture is stamped on Aus compliance plates. This is supplemental information to that on the compliance plate and chassis stamped VIN and should, naturally, be in agreement. This makes date of manufacture easily accessible to the average punter who may not be able to read VINs. Without this information the date of first registration may be passed off, by the unscrupulous, as date of manufacture. Mine is stamped 5/10. From my very unreliable memory bank, I think Cormanus' is stamped 4/11, or thereabouts. In any case both bikes are 2010 models. A 2011/12 model, as such, was not designed or manufactured. On the other hand, the 2013 model is very different and was designed as a new model of the CB1100. Kevin's bike, I believe, is among the last of the run of 2010 models, manufactured in 2012. There may be slight differences in bikes depending on where they sit on the assembly run. Small design changes, slightly different components if external suppliers change, or make changes, will result in differences but the base model does not change. In Cormanus', Kevin's and my case a 2010 model. The Compliance Plate for Cormanus' and my bike show the same compliance rules have been complied with during manufacture. VIN and date of manufacture are, obviously, different. Reading between the lines I believe that compliance rules change between States in the US, unlike Aus where we have design rules legislated under a Commonwealth Act of Parliament (covers all of Aus States and Territories).



Cheers.

[Ridem32_imp]

All USA bikes have the plate like Randy's bike it's says the year model. Our vin is also stamped on the neck itself no tag just stamped on the frame. So we have a frame stamp vin and a tag style vin like Randy's

[Kiwikevin_imp]

Not sure what you mean, Randy. The manufacture date can be discovered by looking at the 10th digit of the VIN. I don't know about the US but there is often real confusion in OZ about year of manufacture/model year/year of first registration where all those dates can theoretically be different.

Randy' photo shows the Compliance Plate, or label. It shows that, despite the year of manufacture, it is a 2013 MODEL. This is not a Honda Plate as such (?) and is not mentioned in the Honda manual under labels and stamps. Or maybe, if on the steering neck, is listed as safety information. Mine has no label, just a stamped number on the neck. The Aus Compliance plate is attached to the left frame rail. Compliance plates are Legislative requirements and differ between Legislatures. I see Randy's mentions tyre and rim size. Mine, for example, is an Australian plate and has a different appearance to Randy's. The month and year of manufacture is stamped on Aus compliance plates. This is supplemental information to that on the compliance plate and chassis stamped VIN and should, naturally, be in agreement. This makes date of manufacture easily accessible to the average punter who may not be able to read VINs. Without this information the date of first registration may be passed off, by the unscrupulous, as date of manufacture. Mine is stamped 5/10. From my very unreliable memory bank, I think Cormanus' is stamped 4/11, or thereabouts. In any case both bikes are 2010 models. A 2011/12 model, as such, was not designed or manufactured. On the other hand, the 2013 model is very different and was designed as a new model of the CB1100. Kevin's bike, I believe, is among the last of the run of 2010 models, manufactured in 2012. There may be slight differences in bikes depending on where they sit on the assembly run. Small design changes, slightly different components if external suppliers change, or make changes, will result in differences but the base model does not change. In Cormanus', Kevin's and my case a 2010 model. The Compliance Plate for Cormanus' and my bike show the same compliance rules have been complied with during manufacture. VIN and date of manufacture are, obviously, different. Reading between the lines I believe that compliance rules change between States in the US, unlike Aus where we have design rules legislated under a Commonwealth Act of Parliament (covers all of Aus States and Territories).



Cheers.

Randy' photo shows the Compliance Plate, or label. It shows that, despite the year of manufacture, it is a 2013 MODEL. This is not a Honda Plate as such (?) and is not mentioned in the Honda manual under labels and stamps. Or maybe, if on the steering neck, is listed as safety information. Mine has no label, just a stamped number on the neck. The Aus Compliance plate is attached to the left frame rail. Compliance plates are Legislative requirements and differ between Legislatures. I see Randy's mentions tyre and rim size. Mine, for example, is an Australian plate and has a different appearance to Randy's. The month and year of manufacture is stamped on Aus compliance plates. This is supplemental information to that on the compliance plate and chassis stamped VIN and should, naturally, be in agreement. This makes date of manufacture easily accessible to the average punter who may not be able to read VINs. Without this information the date of first registration may be passed off, by the unscrupulous, as date of manufacture. Mine is stamped 5/10. From my very unreliable memory bank, I think Cormanus' is stamped 4/11, or thereabouts. In any case both bikes are 2010 models. A 2011/12 model, as such, was not designed or manufactured. On the other hand, the 2013 model is very different and was designed as a new model of the CB1100. Kevin's bike, I believe, is among the last of the run of 2010 models, manufactured in 2012. There may be slight differences in bikes depending on where they sit on the assembly run. Small design changes, slightly different components if external suppliers change, or make changes, will result in differences but the base model does not change. In Cormanus', Kevin's and my case a 2010 model. The Compliance Plate for Cormanus' and my bike show the same compliance rules have been complied with during manufacture. VIN and date of manufacture are, obviously, different. Reading between the lines I believe that compliance rules change between States in the US, unlike Aus where we have design rules legislated under a Commonwealth Act of Parliament (covers all of Aus States and Territories).



Cheers.
Well that makes the date of manufacture of my bike even more interesting considering it is date stamped 5/13