Does this 2013 ABS look familiar? Getting ready to buy it

[meowguy_imp]

The model number of the ABS model is CB1100A on the data plate at the top of the steering stem tube as can be seen on the port side of the bike.

[curlyjoe]

And the '13 CB1100A has big triple piston calipers up front vs the little 2-piston calipers on the other models.

[Ulvetanna_imp]

My question is why do you think ABS will help you stop better? It will not. All it will do is release the brake if you lock the wheel.

Are you locking the wheels? Learn to use the brakes. ABS will absolutely not get you stopped faster. It is not an "automatic braking system" it's "anti-lock" to guard against a panic braking situation, as opposed to controlled braking in an emergency.

And the '13 CB1100A has big triple piston calipers up front vs the little 2-piston calipers on the other models.

Those are four-piston calipers, eight pistons in all. From the earlier CBR1000RR. Awesome brakes, front and rear.

[Lord Popgun]

The '13 ABS front brakes are 3 pot calipers. Check the service manual and part fiche and that can be seen.

[Ulvetanna_imp]

The '13 ABS front brakes are 3 pot calipers. Check the service manual and part fiche and that can be seen.

Right, the ABS model, I was referring to the standard model. Standard model has two four-piston calipers up front. I thought you were saying it has twin-piston calipers.

[the Ferret]

Braking on an abs bike and a non abs bike is exactly the same up until the point of wheel lockup, at which point an abs bike will indeed stop faster than a non abs bike. A skidding motorcycle is an out of control motorcycle.

A good read:

http://www.therideadvice.com/abs-motorcy...cycle-abs/

[Lord Popgun]

The '13 ABS front brakes are 3 pot calipers. Check the service manual and part fiche and that can be seen.

Right, the ABS model, I was referring to the standard model. Standard model has two four-piston calipers up front. I thought you were saying it has twin-piston calipers.

Right, the ABS model, I was referring to the standard model. Standard model has two four-piston calipers up front. I thought you were saying it has twin-piston calipers.
Oh, ok, got it.

It was Curlyjoe though.

[Ulvetanna_imp]

The '13 ABS front brakes are 3 pot calipers. Check the service manual and part fiche and that can be seen.

Right, the ABS model, I was referring to the standard model. Standard model has two four-piston calipers up front. I thought you were saying it has twin-piston calipers.

Right, the ABS model, I was referring to the standard model. Standard model has two four-piston calipers up front. I thought you were saying it has twin-piston calipers.
Oh, ok, got it.

It was Curlyjoe though.

Right, the ABS model, I was referring to the standard model. Standard model has two four-piston calipers up front. I thought someone was saying it has twin-piston calipers.
Oh, ok, got it.

It was Curlyjoe though. Good grief I cannot keep track of all these posts!

Braking on an abs bike and a non abs bike is exactly the same up until the point of wheel lockup, at which point an abs bike will indeed stop faster than a non abs bike. A skidding motorcycle is an out of control motorcycle.

A good read:

http://www.therideadvice.com/abs-motorcy...cycle-abs/

I'm recusing myself from this debate, I've seen it before. I will just say, for those who have not yet made up their minds, that there is a reason racing motorcycles don't use it.

No more replies on my part; an ABS thread is like an oil thread, lol...

[Pterodactyl_imp]

The '13 ABS front brakes are 3 pot calipers. Check the service manual and part fiche and that can be seen.

Right, the ABS model, I was referring to the standard model. Standard model has two four-piston calipers up front. I thought you were saying it has twin-piston calipers.

Right, the ABS model, I was referring to the standard model. Standard model has two four-piston calipers up front. I thought you were saying it has twin-piston calipers.
Oh, ok, got it.

It was Curlyjoe though.

Right, the ABS model, I was referring to the standard model. Standard model has two four-piston calipers up front. I thought someone was saying it has twin-piston calipers.
Oh, ok, got it.

It was Curlyjoe though. Good grief I cannot keep track of all these posts!

Braking on an abs bike and a non abs bike is exactly the same up until the point of wheel lockup, at which point an abs bike will indeed stop faster than a non abs bike. A skidding motorcycle is an out of control motorcycle.

A good read:

http://www.therideadvice.com/abs-motorcy...cycle-abs/

I'm recusing myself from this debate, I've seen it before. I will just say, for those who have not yet made up their minds, that there is a reason racing motorcycles don't use it.

No more replies on my part; an ABS thread is like an oil thread, lol...

Well, not quite right there mate. From BMW below; they have played with it in various forms.

Quote:BMW Motorrad presented the S 1000 RR in 2009 - not just its first supersports bike but also the first motorcycle of this type to be fitted with ABS. That same year saw the first racing victory by a supersports motorcycle with ABS at the 24-hour race in Barcelona.
Cheers

[the Ferret]

Racing motorcycles also don't have mirrors, horns, headlights, tail lights, turn signals or brake lights all of which undoubtedly make us safer. They are ridden by very experienced, often professional riders in a very controlled environment, complete with corner marshalls with flags to let them know if there is an unforseen obstacle or spill around the next turn. There are no intersections, traffic lights, hidden driveways, or people turning left in front of them. They don't share the road with texters, people putting on make up, sleep deprived drivers or drunks. As such racing motorcycles is much safer than riding a street motorcycle.

ABS is not voodoo, and for the average rider ABS will be a benefit. There is a reason it is quickly becoming mandatory for motorcycles all over the world. In the not too distant future you will not even be able to buy a motorcycle without it.

I absolutely recommend people learn how to use their brakes properly. If you do, you may never activate the abs on an ABS equipped motorcycle. My CB1100 has ABS and although braking very hard on several occasions during the last two years and 20,000 miles I've never activated the abs on it, because I do know how to use the brakes on my motorcycle. I've also never locked up the wheels on my non ABS ST1300 in 8 years and 70,000 miles. Because I know how to properly use the brakes. However, there may be an unforseen circumstance some day where I am braking and the ABS for some reason does kick in, and in that instance I know I am better off with ABS than without, because like a I said above, a skidding motorcycle is an out of control motorcycle.