Bummed by a test ride

[SanPete_imp]

Douchbaggish? Is that what dUh! Stands for? That is funny right there. Abrasive or not if you were a salesman I would end up buying the bike either out of intimidation or your honest description of a well balanced classic machine. Thumbs up :-)

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[co6aka_imp]

Can someone pls tell me point blank if the engine response and sound as shown in virtualGuth video (7:35-8:15) normal and typical of CB1100? Because this was pretty much my experience on the test ride, and I didn't like it.

Normally this might be considered splitting hairs and overly nit-picking, but we all know that Honda engineers spent an obsessive amount of effort to get it 'just right'. So I just want to know if this is the expected end result? Because if it is normal, and expected, I would like to know if a pipe or a tune can change it.

[mikedude_imp]

I don't know if you borrowed someone's bike or took a test ride at a dealership, but you are lucky you found out now that you two aren't a match made in heaven. I don't know if it's a regional thing or an individual thing or what, but Honda dealerships I've asked have said they do not allow test rides.

I've NEVER been turned down when requesting a test ride.Gold Wing,VALK Rune,CBR 1000 and YES CB 1100.You poor guys.

[gossman_imp]

Can someone pls tell me point blank if the engine response and sound as shown in virtualGuth video (7:35-8:15) normal and typical of CB1100? Because this was pretty much my experience on the test ride, and I didn't like it.

Normally this might be considered splitting hairs and overly nit-picking, but we all know that Honda engineers spent an obsessive amount of effort to get it 'just right'. So I just want to know if this is the expected end result? Because if it is normal, and expected, I would like to know if a pipe or a tune can change it.

It sounds like a CB1100 to me

[AzBob_imp]

Can someone pls tell me point blank if the engine response and sound as shown in virtualGuth video (7:35-8:15) normal and typical of CB1100? Because this was pretty much my experience on the test ride, and I didn't like it.

Normally this might be considered splitting hairs and overly nit-picking, but we all know that Honda engineers spent an obsessive amount of effort to get it 'just right'. So I just want to know if this is the expected end result? Because if it is normal, and expected, I would like to know if a pipe or a tune can change it.

The audio in the video is plain awful and my bike sounds nothing like that. Go to 6:12 of this video to hear what it should sound like:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVMaMXianHM

[dUh!_imp]

Going back to the video, and looking at the odometer, the bike is showing 500 miles. Again, the sounds of the bike change as it settles in during its break in period. I can hear more transmission gear noises in the video, more than a strained engine sound. With over 4000 miles, I no longer hear a lot of those noises anymore, but watching the video, I know at one time mine made those same sounds. So, in a way - yes; thats a normal sound you will hear from a CB until it gets broke in.

Engine response - I cant see any lurching or iratic behavior between the tach and engine sounds. That's a tough one to try an pinpoint, because we don't know what Guth is doing with the throttle. My opinion, I do see him shifting a lot more than probably necessary, but again, 500 miles on the odometer are showing - got to give everyone time to really learn their new ride.

[Firstfour_imp]

Can someone pls tell me point blank if the engine response and sound as shown in virtualGuth video (7:35-8:15) normal and typical of CB1100? Because this was pretty much my experience on the test ride, and I didn't like it.

Normally this might be considered splitting hairs and overly nit-picking, but we all know that Honda engineers spent an obsessive amount of effort to get it 'just right'. So I just want to know if this is the expected end result? Because if it is normal, and expected, I would like to know if a pipe or a tune can change it.

The audio in the video is plain awful and my bike sounds nothing like that. Go to 6:12 of this video to hear what it should sound like:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVMaMXianHM

Yep, I heard that "sound" just after 6:12, especially when I first got it. Still do now and then under heavy throttle application...

This video also gives some idea of how the CB sounds:

[ClassicVW_imp]

I don't think that sound is unusual or bad. Mine only has 1300 miles on it so it sounds similar.
Motorcycle sounds are so difficult to reproduce on a video. I hear different sounds depending where I stand in relation to the bike, different if you have a windshield, different if you are wearing a helmet and what type of helmet, so just what IS an accurate representation of the bikes sound? Hard to say, much less reproduce accurately.

[Pterodactyl_imp]

Can someone pls tell me point blank if the engine response and sound as shown in virtualGuth video (7:35-8:15) normal and typical of CB1100? Because this was pretty much my experience on the test ride, and I didn't like it.

Normally this might be considered splitting hairs and overly nit-picking, but we all know that Honda engineers spent an obsessive amount of effort to get it 'just right'. So I just want to know if this is the expected end result? Because if it is normal, and expected, I would like to know if a pipe or a tune can change it.

Normal and typical of CB1100? Want to be told point blank? OK, here goes:

This bike can only be described as a complete travesty. An insult to the honourable history of motorcycle evolution. Why? Lets start with the engine, if you can reluctantly bring yourself to describe it as such - completely underpowered for the task, more suited to a CT90 frame but only with riders not in excess of the 101lbs of fun class. Styling - prehistoric, as ugly as the north end of a south bound camel. No amount of botox in the form of mail order farkling can save this wrinkled crone. Suspension - solid, mate, solid, almost brick like, virtually non-adjustable and that produces handling remarkably similar to my 1950 Rumanian built Crapislava Special (solid tyres, cast iron rims and unsprung). Colours - words like nauseating, loathsome, gross, gut-churning and emetic spring to mind. Obviously chosen by a latté sipping, pointy toed shoe wearing set designer for the Australian ballet. Dealer service and support - laughable, totally inadequate except for excellence in the black art of money gouging. Honda - The Power of Schemes seems appropriate. Ever wonder why they are reluctant to give test rides? Obvious I would have thought. Service departments (did I just say service? I must be hallucinating) populated by pimply faced, flat headed, dull eyed pseudo mechanics who wouldn't even know what grade oil to use.

There is more, much more. So why would I buy such a grotesque pile of underpowered dung? I didn't. I still curse the day it fell off the back of a truck over-loaded with unsaleable stock bound for a beach on the sub-continent where it was to be broken up, smelted down and made into low grade knife, fork and spoon sets for the knock-off market in Bangkok. Due to being in what might be called an impecunious and necessitous circumstance (temporary I can assure you so all those outstanding loans will be honoured), I have had to endure 38000 miserable kilometres on this execrable excuse for a motorcycle; when I can coax more than 5kmph from the evil apparatus I'm being exposed to the elements by that almost unendurable and certainly inescapable wind blast - no screen, not even the all conquering National Supersize Road King, can help; my hearing being inexorably destroyed by the high pitched shrieks from that straining excuse for a power (please don't laugh) plant; my haemorrhoids raw, bleeding and abraided by the seat-that-has-no-mercy. At my age only death can release me from this motorcycling hell. Mercifully, with the handling of this treacherous beast that may not be far away.

Mate, don't feel guilty about nit-picking. So my advice, mate, is to get another bike, not a CB. There it is. Point blank and with the full metal jacket.

Cheers, especially to all my brothers in CB motorcycling perdition.

[Firstfour_imp]

Can someone pls tell me point blank if the engine response and sound as shown in virtualGuth video (7:35-8:15) normal and typical of CB1100? Because this was pretty much my experience on the test ride, and I didn't like it.

Normally this might be considered splitting hairs and overly nit-picking, but we all know that Honda engineers spent an obsessive amount of effort to get it 'just right'. So I just want to know if this is the expected end result? Because if it is normal, and expected, I would like to know if a pipe or a tune can change it.

Normal and typical of CB1100? Want to be told point blank? OK, here goes:

This bike can only be described as a complete travesty. An insult to the honourable history of motorcycle evolution. Why? Lets start with the engine, if you can reluctantly bring yourself to describe it as such - completely underpowered for the task, more suited to a CT90 frame but only with riders not in excess of the 101lbs of fun class. Styling - prehistoric, as ugly as the north end of a south bound camel. No amount of botox in the form of mail order farkling can save this wrinkled crone. Suspension - solid, mate, solid, almost brick like, virtually non-adjustable and that produces handling remarkably similar to my 1950 Rumanian built Crapislava Special (solid tyres, cast iron rims and unsprung). Colours - words like nauseating, loathsome, gross, gut-churning and emetic spring to mind. Obviously chosen by a latté sipping, pointy toed shoe wearing set designer for the Australian ballet. Dealer service and support - laughable, totally inadequate except for excellence in the black art of money gouging. Honda - The Power of Schemes seems appropriate. Ever wonder why they are reluctant to give test rides? Obvious I would have thought. Service departments (did I just say service? I must be hallucinating) populated by pimply faced, flat headed, dull eyed pseudo mechanics who wouldn't even know what grade oil to use.

There is more, much more. So why would I buy such a grotesque pile of underpowered dung? I didn't. I still curse the day it fell off the back of a truck over-loaded with unsaleable stock bound for a beach on the sub-continent where it was to be broken up, smelted down and made into low grade knife, fork and spoon sets for the knock-off market in Bangkok. Due to being in what might be called an impecunious and necessitous circumstance (temporary I can assure you so all those outstanding loans will be honoured), I have had to endure 38000 miserable kilometres on this execrable excuse for a motorcycle; when I can coax more than 5kmph from the evil apparatus I'm being exposed to the elements by that almost unendurable and certainly inescapable wind blast - no screen, not even the all conquering National Supersize Road King, can help; my hearing being inexorably destroyed by the high pitched shrieks from that straining excuse for a power (please don't laugh) plant; my haemorrhoids raw, bleeding and abraided by the seat-that-has-no-mercy. At my age only death can release me from this motorcycling hell. Mercifully, with the handling of this treacherous beast that may not be far away.

Mate, don't feel guilty about nit-picking. So my advice, mate, is to get another bike, not a CB. There it is. Point blank and with the full metal jacket.

Cheers, especially to all my brothers in CB motorcycling perdition.

Normal and typical of CB1100? Want to be told point blank? OK, here goes:

This bike can only be described as a complete travesty. An insult to the honourable history of motorcycle evolution. Why? Lets start with the engine, if you can reluctantly bring yourself to describe it as such - completely underpowered for the task, more suited to a CT90 frame but only with riders not in excess of the 101lbs of fun class. Styling - prehistoric, as ugly as the north end of a south bound camel. No amount of botox in the form of mail order farkling can save this wrinkled crone. Suspension - solid, mate, solid, almost brick like, virtually non-adjustable and that produces handling remarkably similar to my 1950 Rumanian built Crapislava Special (solid tyres, cast iron rims and unsprung). Colours - words like nauseating, loathsome, gross, gut-churning and emetic spring to mind. Obviously chosen by a latté sipping, pointy toed shoe wearing set designer for the Australian ballet. Dealer service and support - laughable, totally inadequate except for excellence in the black art of money gouging. Honda - The Power of Schemes seems appropriate. Ever wonder why they are reluctant to give test rides? Obvious I would have thought. Service departments (did I just say service? I must be hallucinating) populated by pimply faced, flat headed, dull eyed pseudo mechanics who wouldn't even know what grade oil to use.

There is more, much more. So why would I buy such a grotesque pile of underpowered dung? I didn't. I still curse the day it fell off the back of a truck over-loaded with unsaleable stock bound for a beach on the sub-continent where it was to be broken up, smelted down and made into low grade knife, fork and spoon sets for the knock-off market in Bangkok. Due to being in what might be called an impecunious and necessitous circumstance (temporary I can assure you so all those outstanding loans will be honoured), I have had to endure 38000 miserable kilometres on this execrable excuse for a motorcycle; when I can coax more than 5kmph from the evil apparatus being exposed to the elements by that almost unendurable and certainly inescapable wind blast - no screen, not even the all conquering National Supersize Road King, can help; my hearing being inexorably destroyed by the high pitched shrieks from that straining excuse for a power (please don't laugh) plant; my haemorrhoids raw, bleeding and abraded by the seat-that-has-no-mercy. At my age only death can release me from this motorcycling hell. And with the handling of this treacherous beast that may not be far away.

Mate, don't feel guilty about nit-picking. So my advice, mate, is to get another bike, not a CB. There it is. Point blank and with the full metal jacket.

Cheers, especially to all my brothers in CB motorcycling perdition.
Priceless.

I hate myself for my cycle-choosing incompetence.