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At some point people will wake up to the fact that all bikes are not race bikes. They are built for a certain job (in the CB's case, a sort of jack of all trades retro bike for us folks reliving the glory years) and that for riding on the street, 90hp in most cases is too much power. Cars have finally reached that point (with some back sliding) where you buy what your circumstances dictate; street racing is just not part of the scene (for 99% of us).
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(09-15-2014, 05:57 AM)Firstfour_imp Wrote: (09-15-2014, 05:17 AM)the_undecider_imp Wrote: I think the OP is just observing the trailing off power band beyond 7500-8000 rpm. I rarely go beyond that for this reason. I find the engine to be so rewarding to ride that wave of torque.
I do think that Honda might have a hit if they built aa higher performance version of the CB, like a CB1100 Super Sport. 100+ hp, higher spec suspension, and a little racier styling.
I think the CB1000R is probably Honda's intended offering for buyers looking for that sort of thing.
I think the CB1000R is probably Honda's intended offering for buyers looking for that sort of thing.
Agreed! I was thinking that the retro style of the CB11 tweaked just a little would be appealing. The CB1000R definitely lacks retro flair.
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No one will ever be happy .02cents
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(09-15-2014, 07:30 AM)gossman_imp Wrote: No one will ever be happy .02cents
Well, I may be the only one, but I love my CB just as it is. It is, for my purposes, perfect. Honda hit the bull's eye with me.
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You're not the only one, firstfour. It is perfect for me too.
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(09-15-2014, 07:41 AM)Firstfour_imp Wrote: (09-15-2014, 07:30 AM)gossman_imp Wrote: No one will ever be happy .02cents
Well, I may be the only one, but I love my CB just as it is. It is, for my purposes, perfect. Honda hit the bull's eye with me. 
Well, I may be the only one, but I love my CB just as it is. It is, for my purposes, perfect. Honda hit the bull's eye with me.
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I think the OP may also be referencing the ease with which the bike revs into upper RPM territory. It has heavy all-steel internals that contribute to the long, "lazy revs" feel compared to a super sport with titanium rods and whatnot that fly to redline in seconds. Again, this is in keeping with the design and intent.
I personally have no problem ringing mine out (albeit mostly on country back roads), and she doesn't seem to mind either. Tricky minx...
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(09-15-2014, 07:41 AM)Firstfour_imp Wrote: (09-15-2014, 07:30 AM)gossman_imp Wrote: No one will ever be happy .02cents
Well, I may be the only one, but I love my CB just as it is. It is, for my purposes, perfect. Honda hit the bull's eye with me. 
Well, I may be the only one, but I love my CB just as it is. It is, for my purposes, perfect. Honda hit the bull's eye with me.  I'm pleased with mine, I personally have zero reason to wring out a few more hp. From where it is set from factory it's all diminishing return considering the cost per hp. If I wanted a sport bike I'd bought one. If I wanted a touring bike I'd buy one. This CB fits me just about right
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Yes, 'lazy revs' would be a good way to call it. It is also the subtle feedback from the engine as it revs up, and the 'strained' sound it makes... And how it completely relaxes going back to 3000 rpm. Perhaps I was expecting a little sharper throttle response, and a more happier sounding engine as it revs up. Perhaps the gearing is more relaxed too, compared to more 'sporty' bikes?
I checked the dyno charts for the Cb1100, FZ09 (too sensitive/ too strong), and Triumph 675 (perfect feel), and the torque curve is flat for all; for the CB1100 torque starts sloping down at about 6500rpm, but pretty much all three bikes have a very linear power curve, with essentially the same slope. In fact, i did not feel the lack of power at any time, just its relaxed delivery and somewhat 'strained' sounding engine.
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(09-15-2014, 10:35 AM)co6aka_imp Wrote: Yes, 'lazy revs' would be a good way to call it. It is also the subtle feedback from the engine as it revs up, and the 'strained' sound it makes... And how it completely relaxes going back to 3000 rpm. Perhaps I was expecting a little sharper throttle response, and a more happier sounding engine as it revs up. Perhaps the gearing is more relaxed too, compared to more 'sporty' bikes?
I checked the dyno charts for the Cb1100, FZ09 (too sensitive/ too strong), and Triumph 675 (perfect feel), and the torque curve is flat for all; for the CB1100 torque starts sloping down at about 6500rpm, but pretty much all three bikes have a very linear power curve, with essentially the same slope. In fact, i did not feel the lack of power at any time, just its relaxed delivery and somewhat 'strained' sounding engine.
Try a Trumpy Sprint GT. A 130hp at the wheels and if you tell me the 1050cc triple sounds 'strained', or lacks power or pull, I'll tell you your dreaming.
'strained'? The mind boggles at what that means anyway. Grunts from small rooms maybe. My CB can't sound strained - I got a Staintune, not a Straintune  .
Cheers, and good luck with your next test ride.
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