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(12-13-2022, 03:06 AM)The ferret_imp Wrote: I think the Z650RS is a 180 degree firing twin. I have read that some find it buzzy on the freeway.
I ride on that Motor practically every day. It's in my Versys 650 LT. I don't find it buzzy at all, but i hate the way it sounds. Fortunately for the Versys that's no black mark because it's specifically intended to be a boring, utilitarian bike for commuting purposes. every 180 Twin i've ever ridden feels like it would be better served if it were just a single of the same displacement.
270 is where it's at !
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(12-12-2022, 11:30 PM)pdedse_imp Wrote: (12-12-2022, 03:19 PM)PowerDubs_imp Wrote: Good article for those interested-
https://motofomo.com/motorcycles-270-degree-crank/
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Cool article...the visuals are great, but what I found interesting were the [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K28H04Y2IdE]Fascinating Rythms. I can't help wonder if people have prefererences for these firing orders based on what music they prefer.
360: Bang, 2, 3, 4, Bang, 6, 7, 8 (prefers Rock music)
180: Bang, 2, Bang, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 (prefers Jazz)
270: Bang, 2, 3, Bang, 5, 6, 7, 8 (prefers Latin music)
And I've a hunch that many CB1100 owners have little to no rythm and basically show a disdain for dance. But I'm... likely mistaken.
 Cool article...the visuals are great, but what I found interesting were the [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K28H04Y2IdE]Fascinating Rythms. I can't help wonder if people have prefererences for these firing orders based on what music they prefer.
360: Bang, 2, 3, 4, Bang, 6, 7, 8 (prefers Rock music)
180: Bang, 2, Bang, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 (prefers Jazz)
270: Bang, 2, 3, Bang, 5, 6, 7, 8 (prefers Latin music)
And I've a hunch that many CB1100 owners have little to no rythm and basically show a disdain for dance. But I'm... likely mistaken.
Very good article.
And I always like it when music comes up on the moto forum.
For what's it's worth, I love my 180d 444 twin.
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If i was done with 2-up and done with long rides the soft and laid back W800 with its old style 360 engine would do me just fine. Depending on the ride quality the new BSA Goldstar could nudge the W800 out the way but it would have to be as forgiving. That W800 has a very forgiving spring rate.
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I want a Royal enfield next.
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(12-13-2022, 01:15 PM)Jgarciajr40_imp Wrote: I want a Royal enfield next.
You and Gone in 60!
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(12-13-2022, 06:05 AM)Tev62_imp Wrote: If i was done with 2-up and done with long rides the soft and laid back W800 with its old style 360 engine would do me just fine. Depending on the ride quality the new BSA Goldstar could nudge the W800 out the way but it would have to be as forgiving. That W800 has a very forgiving spring rate.
It surely will. The W800 offers the best real parallel twin, not a displaced one. And it is very reliable with the best retro look and a very beautiful motor in my eyes. Especially in the first edition build in 2011. You can ride on it with 2-up without any problem, surely depending on how tall and heavy the rider and his sozius are. If both are too extreme than there will problems arise as on most motorcycles including the CB.
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(12-12-2022, 11:16 PM)misterprofessionality_imp Wrote: is that coming to the US?? Not that I know of. I would be purchasing the ADV 350 for use in Thailand, where I'm living part-time. Top speed is referenced online at 145 kph (90 mph), which is sufficient for highway speeds here.
Note: The Honda ADV 150 that is available in the U.S. has a top speed of 117 kph (73 mph), which is no improvement over the Yamaha Exciter 155 I currently ride. (Disclaimer: I am falling in love with my little Exciter. You would be surprised at how well it did on dirt tracks and gravel today. It often thinks it's a dual sport.)
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(12-13-2022, 02:55 AM)Gone in 60_imp Wrote: A Z650RS would be on my VERY short list, if budget and the possibility of Mrs. riding it weren't a consideration.
Had a very interesting conversation a few days ago with a client at a trade show. We were talking bikes, and he had just sold his Z900RS. Said it was too twitchy and nervous on the road for him... not the typical retro comfortable, laid back bike he was hoping it would be.
An NC would be the perfect choice, and I'm always perusing used models. But, seat is kind of high, and might not be a good first choice for Mrs. Again, I have to keep the "maybe she will" thought in consideration.
That’s interesting as it’s a pretty conservative bike by the numbers - 58 inch wheelbase with 25 degree’s rake and 4 in of trail. I suspect he may not have ridden something really twitchy like the Monster 1100 EVO I just sold. It was very quick on the steering but the numbers bore that out - 57 in wheelbase, 24 degrees rake and a whole lot less trail
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My next bike thoughts took an interesting turn last night...
Mrs. Gone is about to take on a new job that would involve local visits to patients in our county. She's excited, but has expressed some concerns like "I'm going to be sitting in traffic... parking will be a challenge... I'll be worried about my catalytic converter getting stolen" (very rampant in our area)
As we were walking through town last night enjoying the Christmas lights and talking about all of this, I said that since she'll be making local trips, we could get her a scooter big enough to hold her medical bag. She started digging the idea, especially since I suggested that it could be white, with a red cross on it, with a matching box to hold her medical gear. It would solve the traffic, parking and converter theft concerns, and she could still take her car on rainy days... who would want to roll under a car with a sawzall on a rainy day?
This idea might grow some legs... who knows?
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(12-14-2022, 03:20 AM)Gone in 60_imp Wrote: My next bike thoughts took an interesting turn last night...
Mrs. Gone is about to take on a new job that would involve local visits to patients in our county. She's excited, but has expressed some concerns like "I'm going to be sitting in traffic... parking will be a challenge... I'll be worried about my catalytic converter getting stolen" (very rampant in our area)
As we were walking through town last night enjoying the Christmas lights and talking about all of this, I said that since she'll be making local trips, we could get her a scooter big enough to hold her medical bag. She started digging the idea, especially since I suggested that it could be white, with a red cross on it, with a matching box to hold her medical gear. It would solve the traffic, parking and converter theft concerns, and she could still take her car on rainy days... who would want to roll under a car with a sawzall on a rainy day?
This idea might grow some legs... who knows?
Cheap and reliable:
* Honda PCX150 2016 and later.
* Or for more freeway capable, a 2014 or later Honda Forza 300.
Lots of storage and comfort, very low cost of ownership. But, still can't help on the catalytic converter issue.
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