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Can someone tell me
#11
Triumph has spared no expense in marketing their products, attended the Bobber party last week locally and saw several of their new models - quite nice looking with classic styling. Pricing seemed quite a bit excessive to me, hard pressed to get out the door with a new bike for less than $16K.
Guzzi makes a very nice bike but there is basically no dealer network in my area.
I seem to want every motorcycle I see!
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#12
(12-19-2016, 02:57 AM)Mikestib1_imp Wrote: Triumph basically copied Harley marketing with their classic. RAT rather than Hog. As the CB was manufactured in Japan rather than Thailand it had to cost more. The fact that Honda sells millions of motorcycles world wide makes them a lot of money but also makes them non exclusive.

actually

MSRP on the Honda CB1100 DLX was $ 10,399

MSRP on the Triumph T120 in solid color is $11,750 and for the 2 tone $12000
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#13
Actually the 2017 CB 1100 shouldn't be less than the Triumph. But with a strong dollar and a weak pound and yen,who knows? But then no Harley or Indian should cost more than a Ducati. We buy what we buy. As far as I know the 2017 price is TBD, on their site. Was price and is price are not comparable
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#14
true but all we have to go by at this point
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#15
(12-19-2016, 06:13 AM)The ferret_imp Wrote:
(12-19-2016, 02:57 AM)Mikestib1_imp Wrote: Triumph basically copied Harley marketing with their classic. RAT rather than Hog. As the CB was manufactured in Japan rather than Thailand it had to cost more. The fact that Honda sells millions of motorcycles world wide makes them a lot of money but also makes them non exclusive.

actually

MSRP on the Honda CB1100 DLX was $ 10,399

MSRP on the Triumph T120 in solid color is $11,750 and for the 2 tone $12000

actually

MSRP on the Honda CB1100 DLX was $ 10,399

MSRP on the Triumph T120 in solid color is $11,750 and for the 2 tone $12000

The 2014 DLX was $11,899.


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#16
No matter, at least Honda committed to a 2017 model and some teaser flat trackers, I'm keeping my 2013
I like the Honda/ Triumph thing. Reminds me of the sixties and the Harley vs Triumph. There's a seat for every butt, or something like that. The more bikes on the road the better for all.
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#17
Actually, wasn't it $12,299 including the $400 freight charge? I forget.
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#18
hmm couldn't remember so I googled it and that's what I found

http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/33790/buye...00-deluxe/

Triumph charges freight and prep as well... Only quoted MSRP that I also googled.
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#19
(12-19-2016, 06:47 AM)The ferret_imp Wrote: hmm couldn't remember so I googled it and that's what I found

http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/33790/buye...00-deluxe/

Triumph charges freight and prep as well... Only quoted MSRP that I also googled.

http://powersports.honda.com/2014/cb1100/options.aspx
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#20
Want my take? Of course you do. LOL

In another thread, someone mentioned "cooler" or some derivative of the word "cool" and I think that person had a point that may be relevant here.

The Triumphs and Honda motorcycles which we are comparing are both retro-modern bikes. Both retain the model name (more or less) from their respective inspiration bike (Bonneville and CB). Both are trying to reach potential customers who remember or at least appreciate the original bikes. I contend, that the Bonneville was always the "cooler" bike at least in the US because a) they were here long before the CBs and b) they ultimately were the rarer of the two bikes (in the 70s and 80s at least). I would contend that Honda CBs became so popular because they were the affordable and reliable alternative to the Bonneville so, in a way, the original CB750 may have been a "retro-modern" version of the aging 1960's Bonnevilles. My point is that the Triumph may have been considered the "cooler" of the two bikes back then and so they just might be considered the cooler of the two bikes by those same folks 50 years later. Maybe/Maybe not. Just my opinion.

There may be another reason that the Bonneville gets more notoriety than the CB now, and that's the marketing of it as Capo has so often and so intelligently mentioned in the past. One thing that Capo has alluded to that might be worthy of a deeper look is the strong emphasis that Triumph as put on their retro bike(s) as opposed to Honda's. Here's a test for you: What's Honda's "Flagship" motorcycle? What's Triumph's "Flagship" motorcycle? Let me guess... Goldwing and Bonneville, right? Not sure if the manufacturers would agree, but I bet that most everyone reading this would answer that way. When I Google Triumph Motorcycle USA and click on 'images', the first picture I see is a Bonneville. When I do the same with Honda Motorcycle USA, I get an F6B first. It is clear to me that Triumph is trying to carve out a niche in the 'standard bike' market and Honda is just trying to have at least one bike in that arena. Again....just my opinion on the matter. I love my 2013 CB and I like owning Hondas. I think they're cool.
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