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out of state buyers
#1
I bought my 2014 in TN and this morning I went to the NC DMV to get tags and title.
They said that I needed a MCO, this is Manufacture Certificate of
Manufacture. (never heard of that )
When I called Southern Honda Powersport in Chattanooga they said that they will send it to me 10 after the check cleared.
I had paid with a bankers check, no financing by anyone.
They said that it is still the 10 days waiting.
It is no big deal except that I stood for 45 minutes in line.
If you buy out of state you might want to check this, the DMV said that it was federal.
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#2
I bought my CB1100 and V-strom from different Florida dealers and my Ford P/U in Florida also and have never had this situation arise. I paid the price in cash for these bikes, minus Florida sales tax. I paid the Georgia sales tax to my county tax office next day to get my registration and tags. Maybe a difference in state laws.
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#3
The federal government can't insist that the state or local government do anything with regard to its registration of vehicles, so they lied to you. We have no requirement like that, all we need is a sales invoice.

Also, the dealer is being jerks. There is no better form of payment than a bank check. And it should take a maximum of two business days for the check to clear (it should clear the same day, electronically).
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#4
(06-11-2014, 06:05 AM)Houtman_imp Wrote: I bought my 2014 in TN and this morning I went to the NC DMV to get tags and title.
They said that I needed a MCO, this is Manufacture Certificate of
Manufacture. (never heard of that )
When I called Southern Honda Powersport in Chattanooga they said that they will send it to me 10 after the check cleared.
I had paid with a bankers check, no financing by anyone.
They said that it is still the 10 days waiting.
It is no big deal except that I stood for 45 minutes in line.
If you buy out of state you might want to check this, the DMV said that it was federal.

A Certificate of Origin or in this case Import of Origin should accompany the bike to its destination. The certificate allows the dealer to insure the bike on its premises and trade to other dealers without having to title the bike. Often when you buy a new vehicle its origin is not from the same dealer of your purchase. He should have that certificate in his hands.
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#5
We lived in New York for 22 years and I bought and sold many bikes and never had a problem.
Moving to NC was a pain in the neck, I had bought a 79 CBX in New Jersey and had no problem getting a title in New York.
When we moved to NC the problem started with that bike.
Years ago they used the engine # as the vin # on that bike , the DMV in NC would not give me a title or tags.
I had to go thru a title company in Las Vegas, they gave me a registration for Maine, they do not use titles for over 25 years old bikes, only registration.
Even that was at first not enough for NC ,I had to get an official letter from the DMV in Maine to say no titles for older bikes in Maine.
The title and tags is run by private companies in NC, I very much preferred the New York State agency.
You are right about the bankers check ,that's the reason I brought one ,they do take personal checks and I can see them waiting on those.
Buyer Beware!!!
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#6
(06-11-2014, 07:48 AM)Houtman_imp Wrote: We lived in New York for 22 years and I bought and sold many bikes and never had a problem.
Moving to NC was a pain in the neck, I had bought a 79 CBX in New Jersey and had no problem getting a title in New York.
When we moved to NC the problem started with that bike.
Years ago they used the engine # as the vin # on that bike , the DMV in NC would not give me a title or tags.
I had to go thru a title company in Las Vegas, they gave me a registration for Maine, they do not use titles for over 25 years old bikes, only registration.
Even that was at first not enough for NC ,I had to get an official letter from the DMV in Maine to say no titles for older bikes in Maine.
The title and tags is run by private companies in NC, I very much preferred the New York State agency.
You are right about the bankers check ,that's the reason I brought one ,they do take personal checks and I can see them waiting on those.
Buyer Beware!!!

I have a house in NC and know what is involved down there, i have registered several vehicle that require a folder of documents notarized (crazy)
But in no state in the US will you get a title for a NEW bike/car without a Certificate of Origin.
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#7
I did have a similar issue once with a car, although I had the certificate, there was a missing link and it took me a LONG time to straighten that mess out.
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#8
(06-11-2014, 08:05 AM)CIP57_imp Wrote:
(06-11-2014, 07:48 AM)Houtman_imp Wrote: We lived in New York for 22 years and I bought and sold many bikes and never had a problem.
Moving to NC was a pain in the neck, I had bought a 79 CBX in New Jersey and had no problem getting a title in New York.
When we moved to NC the problem started with that bike.
Years ago they used the engine # as the vin # on that bike , the DMV in NC would not give me a title or tags.
I had to go thru a title company in Las Vegas, they gave me a registration for Maine, they do not use titles for over 25 years old bikes, only registration.
Even that was at first not enough for NC ,I had to get an official letter from the DMV in Maine to say no titles for older bikes in Maine.
The title and tags is run by private companies in NC, I very much preferred the New York State agency.
You are right about the bankers check ,that's the reason I brought one ,they do take personal checks and I can see them waiting on those.
Buyer Beware!!!

I have a house in NC and know what is involved down there, i have registered several vehicle that require a folder of documents notarized (crazy)
But in no state in the US will you get a title for a NEW bike/car without a Certificate of Origin.

That's correct. Any brand new vehicle needs a C of O to get titled for the first time. After that, titles are used for ownership and registration.

Usually when you buy a brand new bike in your own state, the dealer takes care of getting the C of O turned into a title with your name on it (for which you usually pay a fee).

One of the reasons the shop isn't forking over the C of A is because a cashiers check from an out of state buyer is suspect these days. Forged cashiers checks are the number one way sellers have been getting ripped off on Craigslist. It often takes several business days for a check to make it's way through the system before it's found to be bogus.
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#9
I buy ATV out of state to keep from paying sales tax. Me & my son bought 2 new Polaris XP900 voodoo blue about $17,000 each. We got MCO on both bikes kept them 2 years sold them and the person that bought them got titles in their names as new bikes their name wAs the first on title not my name Smile
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#10
When I bought my bike (or buy a new car, etc) I always get copies of EVERYTHING, including the MCO. As stated above, usually the dealer handles the DMV stuff, but once, back in the day, I bought a new bike in Japan and brought it home (was in the Navy). Took the MCO and bill of sale to the VA. DMV and walked out with a title and tag with no hassles.
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