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Another “is this the bike for me?” thread
#11
A Dart Marlin flyscreen for speeds over 70 MPH, or fighting headwinds is a plus. Got mine on a special 10 Nov 2017 for $124.95. Normal $174.95.

Had ABS on my Moto Guzzi V7II for ~7K miles in 7 months and never activated it. Do not miss it on my 2014 CB1100 standard.

Extremely pleased with my CB.
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#12
Quote: Please note that in a panic stop, it will take you longer time and distance wise to stop with ABS than without as the brake pistons pulse in grasping and releasing the rotor.
I’m not trying to talk you out of getting ABS, but taking a rider course and practicing braking techniques under a trained and competent instructor can make you a proficient rider.
Went to MSF before I bought a bike/started riding at all, and bought a full set of quality gear as well. The only people that I've seen in objective tests stop bikes faster on a non-ABS version vs ABS were extremely experienced professional riders. I practice smooth progressive engagement on the brakes to transfer the weight forward before applying completely & all that - but in a true unexpected panic stop (sudden deer, inattentive driver, etc), I like knowing that a computer with vastly faster reaction times is there if I grab a full hand to prevent a lock-up. The only case I know of where an average rider is likely to get better results from no ABS is in the dirt where you actually want some wheel lock.

Don't really want to turn this into an ABS debate though, I've seen those go well off the rails elsewhere Tongue. Just take it as given it's a requirement for me.

Ferret - I was reading a thread earlier on how valve checks on the '17 were now showing as 12k in the manual, and I thought I saw that oil changes were every 8k miles? Thanks for the rest of your input on maintenance. I'd totally go for a '14 DLX if I can find one, I actually prefer the wheels over the '17 spokes. I'd be looking for that front speed sensor ring to validate ABS too - one of the first things I've been looking at in bike ads for models that were sold both with/without ABS in the US.
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#13
One thing you might notice coming from a small bike like the G310 is the CB's weight. You'll mostly notice it pushing it around or pulling it up on the center stand. At any speed, it's very well balanced with a low center of gravity so not really an issue while riding. The weight helps stabilize it on the freeway too which is probably why so many find it to be a good commuter.
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#14
cblais19 Wrote:fell deeply in lust with the CB when I was madly blowing manufacturer sites
Not sure whether to be repulsed by such a thing, or to marvel at how such a thing can even be accomplished?

Anyway...

Like mickey said, if it's a black CB1100 and it's sold in America, it does not have ABS. The only black model in the U.S. was the 2014 Standard, which absolutely does not have ABS. The only 2014 model with ABS was the decidedly red DLX, of which there are no leftovers. So, if it's a "base" 2014, which is black, it does not have ABS.

Otherwise, besides the cost argument, if one can get ABS, there is zero reason not to do so. This notion of "I never had it, and I did just fine!" is irrelevant. People got along just fine before the advent of electricity, but we're still better off having electricity. In the real world, there is zero downside to having ABS on your bike. There might also end up being zero upside, but so what? As with any form of safety equipment or insurance, it's still better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it.
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#15
Hahahaha, not quite sure how browsing turned into blowing!
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#16
(03-15-2018, 11:48 AM)VLJ_imp Wrote: cblais19 Wrote:fell deeply in lust with the CB when I was madly blowing manufacturer sites
Not sure whether to be repulsed by such a thing, or to marvel at how such a thing can even be accomplished?

Anyway...

Like mickey said, if it's a black CB1100 and it's sold in America, it does not have ABS. The only black model in the U.S. was the 2014 Standard, which absolutely does not have ABS. The only 2014 model with ABS was the decidedly red DLX, of which there are no leftovers. So, if it's a "base" 2014, which is black, it does not have ABS.

Otherwise, besides the cost argument, if one can get ABS, there is zero reason not to do so. This notion of "I never had it, and I did just fine!" is irrelevant. People got along just fine before the advent of electricity, but we're still better off having electricity. In the real world, there is zero downside to having ABS on your bike. There might also end up being zero upside, but so what? As with any form of safety equipment or insurance, it's still better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it.

When I lived in Flagstaff and driving on ice, having ABS was very much appreciated on 4 wheel vehicles.

One negative, which may not be applicable for the CB: Brake bleeding on the Moto Guzzi V7II with ABS is more complicated.
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#17
One of my bikes has ABS, I have never activated it on the one that has, and I have braked hard, hard, hard. Can't imagine what it would take to activate it, but if I ever find out, I'm pretty sure I will be glad it's there lol
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#18
As I recall there’s a couple of interminable ABS threads on this site. Feel free to re-activate them. Not.

The other thing to look for to see whether the bike has ABS is its VIN. If it has ABS it will begin JH2SC655 (2013 with ABS) or JH2SC658 (2014 DLX).

If it starts with JH2SC651 and is a 2013 or 2014 model, it does not have ABS; however, if it is a 2017 model it will have ABS. If it’s a 2017 model the VIN will be JH2SC651xHKyyyyyy. Where x is the check digit and y is a number.
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#19
(03-15-2018, 03:02 PM)Cormanus_imp Wrote: As I recall there’s a couple of interminable ABS threads on this site. Feel free to re-activate them. Not.

The other thing to look for to see whether the bike has ABS is its VIN. If it has ABS it will begin JH2SC655 (2013 with ABS) or JH2SC658 (2014 DLX).

If it starts with JH2SC651 and is a 2013 or 2014 model, it does not have ABS; however, if it is a 2017 model it will have ABS. If it’s a 2017 model the VIN will be JH2SC651xHKyyyyyy. Where x is the check digit and y is a number.

Great research.
Can also look on front disc for speed sensor, as on rear.
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#20
ABS the only one best safety option that you can have on a bike........only one fall ( bcos braking) is enough for lost your healt or more.....
without:
only if you weekly train intensive braking i believe you a bit that you master it too in a totaly surprise moment with the same effectivness like with ABS....


amen.....


if you have the possibilty in times like now so choose the version with ABS ....AND be happy if you need it never...

its a good feeling to know that you can use your full brakepower at any time or just you can always pull with full power the brakelevers if its need the situation

btw
minimum here in europe is ABS since 1-2 years mandatory by all new bikes...
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