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(04-17-2018, 03:43 AM)PAULIBIKER_imp Wrote: New 14 for $6500 or used 13 with 1200 miles for $4000? I like red and the black motor, so that’s a wash. 6 speeds and gear indicator are nice, but $2500 nice?
Yes, nice, but for me on the bikes that haven't had a gear indicator, I don't even notice it after a few rides; the brain takes over, you know what gear you're in.
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I might not miss the indicator, but I'd certainly miss the sixth gear.
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(04-16-2018, 11:09 PM)PAULIBIKER_imp Wrote: Been looking at 13’s and 14’s. Do they all have 5 speeds and a gear indicator? Leaning towards a black 14 but there is a low mile 13 close to me pretty cheap. Thanks
GENERAL info:
1. 2013 - 5 speed and ONLY neutral indicator, 5th gear = 1.111 (30/27) = NOT O/D
2. 2014 - 6 speed and 1-6 + N indicators, 5th gear = 1.074 (29/27), 6th = 0.964 (27/28) = 6th IS O/D
3. Honda did NOT modified 2013/5-speed tranny JUST by adding the 6th gear to 2014 !!!!!
4. Entire gear ratios for 2013 & 2014 are TOTALLY different. STUDY gear ratio for 5 & 6 speed tranny.
If you do not understand gear ratio/rpm correlation, ask somebody who does, PRIOR making your decision!! Gears are not just the numbers.
I do not intend to influence your decision.
Good luck
pb
(04-17-2018, 03:04 AM)Bheezy27403_imp Wrote: Thank you papa Ferret for showing me the error of my ways. 
Papa????? Ferret.....I did not know his new name

pb
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2013 rider here. Upside to the 5-speed is that you shift 17% less than the 6 speeds. And who really needs a gear indicator when you have a tach? (that's the serious part of this reply).
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I've never had a bike with a gear indicator before and I will admit it's nice to have but it would not be a deciding factor in my purchasing.
The 6th gear though is almost a must, I'm always looking for another gear on my HD and at one point I wanted to install a 6 speed trans but just couldn't afford it at the time.
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The ECU programming is different as well.
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I love my 13, but I'd love it a whole lot more with a 6-spd and a gear indicator. I'd absolutely go for that if it's an option.
Here's a good article if you're still undecided:
https://gizmodo.com/can-a-6th-gear-fix-t...1579761725