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Frulk, great contrast of experiences between your HD dealer and your Honda dealer. Among the car and motorcycle dealerships that I frequent, I can't say that one brand consistently offers a superior customer service experience versus another -- I think it's a dealer-specific attribute, and I direct my dollars accordingly. I'm happy to know your Harley dealer treats you with the care, attentiveness and respect you deserve. I wish all of my dealers treated their customers the same way. I believe it would enhance customer loyalty and enable a more successful business model.
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jitaylor: RE: "Still there is a lot of peer pressure in the Harley fold to stay with Harley. " Man ain't that the truth. I have witnessed striking examples of that.
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Probably correct. However, lately I have not seen a HD on the asphalt from the 20th century. Where are they? Exported to Sweden? The last one I say was a '99 1200 Sportster ridden by a lady who was cursing bloody murder as the bike would not start or stay started. She recently brought it back from the shop. She swore that was it for the bike. However, time and time again, she continues to own it - never letting go.
Another co-worker with a '97 1200 Sportster had the engine rebuilt. He was going to dump the bike, but nevertheless did the shop job which turned out to be double the estimate cost. Now he kept it because he invested so much more into it.
Diehard!
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(11-20-2018, 12:59 PM)GoldOxide_imp Wrote: jitaylor: RE: "Still there is a lot of peer pressure in the Harley fold to stay with Harley. " Man ain't that the truth. I have witnessed striking examples of that.
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Probably correct. However, lately I have not seen a HD on the asphalt from the 20th century. Where are they? Exported to Sweden? The last one I say was a '99 1200 Sportster ridden by a lady who was cursing bloody murder as the bike would not start or stay started. She recently brought it back from the shop. She swore that was it for the bike. However, time and time again, she continues to own it - never letting go.
Another co-worker with a '97 1200 Sportster had the engine rebuilt. He was going to dump the bike, but nevertheless did the shop job which turned out to be double the estimate cost. Now he kept it because he invested so much more into it.
Diehard!
I know this guy in Cocoa, who all he does is export Harleys to people overseas. He sent one to Guam. He boxes them up and ships them all over. Not new ones, used ones. Usually real nice looking ones too.
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Well, there are alotta countries who love the ol' American built iron block engine cars. I suppose maybe the same goes for HDs. But, Honda is respected worldwide pretty well unconditionally.
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1. Two of my bikes were Sportsters because at that time standard bikes were not easy to find.
2. I had service department issues at both Simi Harley and Ventura Harley.
3. For those bashing H-D, you should have ridden a 2002 or 2003 Sportster Sport.
4. I have a friend with 230,000 miles on his 2006 Sportster and another friend with tons of miles on his.
5. I do not care for the low or super low seat models, thus the Bonneville, V7 and CB1100 in recent history.
6. The 2014 up CANBus Sportsters are NOT electrical mod friendly.
7. When not riding solo, friends joining me are all on Harley's...no negative remarks about Moto Guzzi (other than from me) or Honda.
8. No criticism about any of those bikes when I post on the XL forum.
The Honda CB 1100 is quality built and it defends itself. The only reason to post is for prospective buyers to appreciate what we have experienced.
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I'm fortunate enough to have a Harley in my garage. It's my wife's and she rides it not. My youngest is a Dyna guy and talked her into it.
On occasional weekends, it's my ride of choice. It's so relaxed and there's something about the low grunt and vibes that really hits home.
Then, on weekdays, I get on my other bikes. When I do, I'm aware of how much effort the Harley requires and how very limited is it's handling. I still will go out and enjoy the ride on the HD but, no way could it compare to the handling and value of my other bikes, especially the CB.
With the 1100, I feel like I've been blessed with the the bike I've always wanted since youth but, with my limited imagination, I couldn't recognize 'till now. Every time I throw a leg over it I feel like I've arrived and motorcycling for me is complete.
-Still will ride and very much enjoy the Harley on lazy, weekend mornings . . .
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Must be labour to choose on some days.
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My opinion: CB1100--HD can #@!* after getting rid of Buell.
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(11-03-2013, 12:32 AM)CIP57_imp Wrote: http://www.motorcyclistonline.com/compar...tions.html
Having rented streetglides and owning a gold wing it would be a no brainier without even demo riding each of them. Lower seat height mid controls, shorter distance to bars on the honda = better comfort for me personally, not to mention Hp and torque difference all at the same price. Shields can all be modified to your preference. Now this would be for long overnight tours. They Harley may be fun for the weekend warrior going for breakfast and bull@~*^ting at the gas station.
In my neighborhood there are scads of HD's, and all of them are really nice. There are a few trikes too. But they only ride them on the weekends for breakfast. Never to the store or pharmacy or anywhere else.
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First, I'm digging the fact that GoldOxide is reviving old threads. As a relative newcomer, I tend to have only seen what's happened in the last 9 months (I'm not as industrious as he is with the search feature...).
Anyway, around the mid-Atlantic at least, if you see a bike around here, it's 60% likely it's a Harley, 15% likely it's a BMW, and the rest is uniformly distributed from whomever. But the Harley riders are great. I've never had a Harley (tried several over the years....never got along with the handling.....though admittedly haven't ridden one in the last 20 years), but have been welcome in any setting where it's almost exclusively Harley. And you see them wearing full face helmets and other protective gear for the most part (well, maybe not high-viz, but...) Pretty much the only negative that I can say about Harley riders around here (and this is just a generalization based on my personal experience) is that they seem much more likely to drink rather heavily and hop on and ride away than...say....BMW riders. I'm no teetotaler, but the idea of pounding down the beers and hoping on a bike scares the bejeebees out of me. That may be more of an age thing than a Harley thing though. Harley riders tend to be a bit older.
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