Electric vehicle charging in winter

[the Ferret]

Consumer reports did a test with a Tesla 3 and a Nissan Leaf and in 0-10 degree weather they got approx 1/2 the advertised range. They also took longer to charge. They also said a heated steering wheel and seats will warm you up faster than the heaters in the cars.

[jimgl3_imp]

I'm still stuck on the mental picture of someone running a gas or diesel genny to charge their electric car because the power is out!

and on the news last night they had some poor woman that unplugged everything in her home and only ran heat to warm home and electric bill was $600 !!! think if she had charged a car!

[Houtman_imp]

There is a lot of "electrifying " news these days.

[GoldOxide_imp]

There is a lot of "electrifying " news these days.

... and most grids around the world are not ready for the extra loads of everyone with an EV in their driveway or an "eCB1100" in the garage.

Of course, the grid can be ready - but that would require upgrades. Those costs funding will come from, well, you know who.

[Houtman_imp]

We do save some power by not using the electric chairs anymore.....

[bioman_imp]

I'm still stuck on the mental picture of someone running a gas or diesel genny to charge their electric car because the power is out!

and on the news last night they had some poor woman that unplugged everything in her home and only ran heat to warm home and electric bill was $600 !!! think if she had charged a car!

Well, our house is also heated by electricity only (via so-called baseboard heaters). This is very common in my part of the woods (rural British Columbia). I don't think it is the most energy-efficient way of heating a house, but it does the job.

Regarding the car-charging + heating costs: we pay about CA $200 per month for electricity. (But we have no other energy costs, e.g. for natural gas). I think this is reasonable.

And in our case the electricity comes from our own little town which has its own hydro-power plant. So the electricity that powers our EV is reasonable green (or at least greener than the fuel that our other (ICE) car is gulping... .



P.S. Please let's not start an "environmental costs of EV batteries" thread!

[Houtman_imp]

There are some companies (Porsche and McLaren) working on a new efuel , gasoline made synthetically which is a clean " burning" as an electric vehicle. You have to think from wall to wheel when it comes to propel a car .

[GoldOxide_imp]

There are some companies (Porsche and McLaren) working on a new efuel , gasoline made synthetically which is a clean " burning" as an electric vehicle. You have to think from wall to wheel when it comes to propel a car .

I wonder if it would be sustainable? That always seems to be a problem.

[peterbaron]

I'm still stuck on the mental picture of someone running a gas or diesel genny to charge their electric car because the power is out!

and on the news last night they had some poor woman that unplugged everything in her home and only ran heat to warm home and electric bill was $600 !!! think if she had charged a car!

Well, our house is also heated by electricity only (via so-called baseboard heaters). This is very common in my part of the woods (rural British Columbia). I don't think it is the most energy-efficient way of heating a house, but it does the job.

Regarding the car-charging + heating costs: we pay about CA $200 per month for electricity. (But we have no other energy costs, e.g. for natural gas). I think this is reasonable.

And in our case the electricity comes from our own little town which has its own hydro-power plant. So the electricity that powers our EV is reasonable green (or at least greener than the fuel that our other (ICE) car is gulping... .



P.S. Please let's not start an "environmental costs of EV batteries" thread!

Well, our house is also heated by electricity only (via so-called baseboard heaters). This is very common in my part of the woods (rural British Columbia). I don't think it is the most energy-efficient way of heating a house, but it does the job.

Regarding the car-charging + heating costs: we pay about CA $200 per month for electricity. (But we have no other energy costs, e.g. for natural gas). I think this is reasonable.
In So/Ontario/GTA we pay monthly average of: C$175 = C$85 gas/heating/hot water tank + C$90 hydro/electric stove.
Conditions: two story-detached, three habitant + a small dog, average inside: +21*C in winter and +23*C in summer when a/c is on, programable thermostat.
No electric vehicles.

[Jfro5687_imp]

Funny how as you grow older so many things in life seem to go full circle. Some of the very first cars were electric, like 100 years ago, I just Googled and found the above, a Detroit Model D. That didn’t last.

In the 70’s and 80’s in the UK there was a thing called ‘Economy 7’ home heating that was pushed/promoted heavily. The idea was if you joined the scheme you paid less for electricity overnight and used it to heat up (brick) storage heaters bolted to the walls inside your home. Come daytime the power went off but the hot bricks kept giving off warmth, until night time and the cycle repeated itself. Bought our first house in 1991 and it had these things. Awful. Total crap. Gave it a year to see if we could get used to it but didn’t. It was very very expensive and they didn’t warm the home enough. Like blowing on a candle. So had a firm tear the lot out and had oil central heating installed instead (no gas in the village). Never looked back.

So, the point being, unless and until they (Governments) get the infrastructure right none of this stuff is gonna work.