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Raising CB1100 onto centerstand
#11
You gotta be doing something wrong. After using center stand on my GoldWing, first time I tried cb1100 center stand I almost pulled it off the wheels backwards. It's at least 400lbs lighter


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#12
One thing about center stands is a degree of patience. You can't just stomp on the lever and up comes the bike. You literally stand on it with your full weight and wait for the lever action to occur.

"Give me a lever long enough and a fulcrum on which to place it, and I shall move the world."
- Archimedes
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#13
(06-17-2017, 01:31 PM)Stichill_imp Wrote: One thing about center stands is a degree of patience. You can't just stomp on the lever and up comes the bike. You literally stand on it with your full weight and wait for the lever action to occur.

"Give me a lever long enough and a fulcrum on which to place it, and I shall move the world."
- Archimedes

I could literally stand on the tang of my ST 1300 all day and it wouldn't budge. Honestly. Honda provides a big swing out bar to help heft the whale onto the stand. They wouldn't do that if it was simply a matter of standing on the tang. It's not a balance bar, it's a lift bar.

While true it's " mostly" a matter of technique, I can tell you from working in the motorcycle industry for 17 years and putting tens of thousands of motorcycles on their centerstands from 50cc to 1800cc that some just go up easier than others. I would put the CB somewhere in the middle. Not the easiest, not the hardest. To me the Goldwing is easier. I have always had multiple motorcycles in the garage (down to 2 now but as many as 6 at one time) and there have always been one's that are not a problem and ones I regret having to put on their stands. Just like the two I have now. One I don't mind. The other I call my wife to help, even though I know and use the same technique.
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#14
The easiest ever were older BMW's. If you are tall enough it can be done straddling the bike. Also, BMW placed their stands at the bike's balance point so that the bike would rest on the front or rear tire. In other words, it would rest on the rear tire if the front was removed and front otherwise. Made roadside tire repair a snap.
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#15
(06-17-2017, 09:47 PM)redbirds_imp Wrote: The easiest ever were older BMW's. If you are tall enough it can be done straddling the bike. Also, BMW placed their stands at the bike's balance point so that the bike would rest on the front or rear tire. In other words, it would rest on the rear tire if the front was removed and front otherwise. Made roadside tire repair a snap.

Always admired that about mid 70's BMWs. That and the little handle on the rear shocks to change preload without a separate tool. Back then it seemed like their engineers might have actually ridden and worked on their own BMW's.
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#16
FWIW - this applies to most bikes I ever had the pleasure of lifting on the centerstand:

Bike centerstands are designed so that it takes about 80 kg force straight down on the stand lever to lift them up.

It is difficult to achieve that much force on the lever if:

a) the rider's curb mass is less than 80 kg.
b) he is bent over because both of his hands are on the handlebars, so a part of his weight is supported by either arm, instead of only the leg that presses the lever.
c) he has soft-sole footwear.
d) the bike and/or the rider are not on firm, flat surface.
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#17
hmm my curb mass is 83 kg lol
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#18
(06-18-2017, 03:27 AM)The ferret_imp Wrote: hmm my curb mass is 83 kg lol
I wish...
Did you count in everything? Boots, jacket, cell-phone, keychain, dentures...? Every little bit helps with that lever!
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#19
With gear my body mass is over 100 kilograms.

The 2017 CB1100 EX is the only motorcycle I ever had trouble rolling on the center stand. I have owned a dozen motorcycles including a Goldwing Aspencade and a Yamaha XS 1100 with Vetter fairing, saddlebags and trunk. Even when fully loaded these two touring machines were easier than this "naked" bike. Penny and I could pack enough stuff on the Goldwing with its trunk and saddlebag accessory racks to fill a motel room.
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#20
CB is easy to get up with the right technique. Just push straight down and a little to the left with your foot and when you're pushing hardest with your foot lift up and to the right a little with your hand underneath the passenger seat. Once you get the feel of that it glides right up.


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