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90 minutes to 2 hours is very normal ride time for me between breaks. At that point I either need to pee, take a swig of water, stretch the legs and back, refuel, check directions anyway. A short break normally resets my butt for another 1-2 hours. If I’m really trying to push through and get somewhere, standing up through some slow sections of road resets me as well. I ride off-road though so standing is quite natural for me. I can see how some might feel weird doing so though.
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(02-05-2019, 10:57 AM)dbarkdoll_imp Wrote: 90 minutes to 2 hours is very normal ride time for me between breaks. At that point I either need to pee, take a swig of water, stretch the legs and back, refuel, check directions anyway. A short break normally resets my butt for another 1-2 hours. If I’m really trying to push through and get somewhere, standing up through some slow sections of road resets me as well. I ride off-road though so standing is quite natural for me. I can see how some might feel weird doing so though.
(+1) Totally everything said.
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Never owned a stock seat that I liked.
Every bum is different, if your bum dislikes your seat get one made. Or an airhawk. But first try to deduce why you don't it. Is it too low? Too hard? Too soft? No support for your thighs? Step too far forward?
for the time we spend on them we should not suffer a poor fitting seat.
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Yes, I've tried to scientifically determine why my butt aches, but after about 5 mins I'm too lost in the joys of biking (a bit like Homer going "ooo, shiny") and it's only when the discomfort works it's way into my consciousness that it becomes a problem. But moving forwards to the tank (feels awkward changing gear)/backwards onto the passenger seat (too much of a stretch) does temporarily alleviate the pain. Either that or tuck in, wind it on and just concentrate on the road ahead.
Mind you I can get achey-bum syndrome on just about any chair it seems. Wonder if having popped a disc a few years back is a behind this?
When I was learning we had CB650s and Z650s, the Z650, the main bike used, gave me bum ache after about 20 mins, the CB650, used only once but for about an hour, gave no pain at all - mind you that was the first big bike I had ever ridden on the public highway, it was dark and the morning rush hour so my physical condition was not uppermost in my mind at the time.
Looking at cycle-ergo, the forward lean is the same for CB1100 and Z650 but less for the CB650, indeed when I shuffle right up to the tank, the position feels like what I remember it to have been on the CB650.
Makes me wonder if a 2" pull back, or buckhorns, would help?
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Pullbacks or hanging-like bars may help with any back-related strain, which for some could contribute to other upper or lower muscle pain. Every - body - is different.
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Now here's a thing, had the bike on the centre stand today so decided to see if there was a naturally more comfortable body position for me where my butt didn't hurt.
Well, seems that leaning forward and putting my wrists on top of the grips gives me a position where my weight is more towards my perineum rather than my coccyx, so induces less discomfort.
So.... is it possible to simply rotate the handlebars forward around 3-4 inches and easily/simple adjust the controls, levers etc? Or is everything pinned so non-adjustable?
Or do I need new bars as the rotation will introduce issues of its own?
...seat is still bloody hard though!
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The seat is, literally, a pain in the arse and upper, inner thighs.
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Without new hardware, handlebar controls so have limited adjustment margin. However I do not believe you will get 3 to 4 inches without customization. Be careful what you wish for regarding arm/wrist support with adjustments. I am sure many Forum members have chimed in with their experience.
lol - The Forum fills the spectrum regarding seat comfort. I find the seat hard after 60 to 90 minutes of riding and it is typically my butt bones for me. Some people call me a "hard *", but we have standards here at the Forum for such language.
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(02-04-2019, 11:13 AM)cblais19_imp Wrote: Go ride (pedal) road bikes for a while, you won’t complain about a motorcycle seat ever again
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I was baffled when I saw people complaining about the Tenere’s stock seat over on ADVRider, then I remembered my rear is probably calibrated very differently after years of riding on tiny little saddles that numb uh...sensitive areas.
Same here. Also, I am comfortable on sport bikes. I have to be able to support my weight with my legs or I feel weird. The feet forward position makes the back of my butt hurt so that I have to stop and stand up every so often.
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JT: Regarding standing - agreed. However, I find standing straight up on the CB a challenge - or maybe more correctly, a safety issue for me. For that I minimally need a Strom or Versys.