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Spare connectors/Oxford heated grips
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Went looking for the spare connectors behind my left side cover 2014 Standard.
Could not find. There is no clear plastic cover in the maze of wires, nor are there any open circuit wires. Have no idea where to start looking at the wiring diagrams. Is my 2014 a 1100 or 1100A? There are wiring diagrams for each in the Factory Honda Repair Manual.
I plan to install Oxford Heated Grips. The controller has a switch called "Battery Saver Mode" which I assume is the Power On/Off switch. The box says if you forget to turn the grips off, the unit will shut down automatically, thus saving battery draw. How neat is that? The unit comes with ring adapters for connection to the battery, so maybe the Honda spare connectors will not be needed, but I am curious to know if any other 2014 Standard owners have found these connectors. I might want to use them for another device in the future.


12-28-2020, 04:42 AM
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RE: Spare connectors/Oxford heated grips
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The accessory connector is not really behind the left side cover. The boot it is in IS on the left side but is in the battery area. Remove the tool box and the boot is pointing down on the left side by the frame, aft of the battery.

The standard 2014 is the 1100, the Dlx is 1100A


12-28-2020, 04:50 AM
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RE: Spare connectors/Oxford heated grips
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(12-28-2020, 04:50 AM)Lord Popgun_imp Wrote: The accessory connector is not really behind the left side cover. The boot it is in IS on the left side but is in the battery area. Remove the tool box and the boot is pointing down on the left side by the frame, aft of the battery.

The standard 2014 is the 1100, the Dlx is 1100A
You are correct. I found the clear boot which contains red, white and gray connectors but there are wires on both ends of each connector. Perhaps the Standard does not have the spare connections? Where on the wiring diagram (1100A after 2013) should I look for these mysterious connectors? There is also a wiring diagram entitled 1100SA (After 2013), which I assumed to be the Deluxe model.


12-28-2020, 06:21 AM
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First, I made a mistake. My diagrams say CB1100 (After ‘13 model), CB1100A (After ‘13 model) and CB1100SA (After ‘13 model). The A is an ABS model and the SA is the DLX

Anyway, on the wiring diagram the connectors at the top on the right and left. The rear one is top right labeled Option-Dummy (dummy is the cap) and WPC 4P ® The R means red. 4P means 4 pins.

The one in the headlight shell is top left under the switchgear labeled Option-Dummy WPC 2P ® 2P means 2 pins.


12-28-2020, 06:48 AM
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(12-28-2020, 06:48 AM)Lord Popgun_imp Wrote: First, I made a mistake. My diagrams say CB1100 (After ‘13 model), CB1100A (After ‘13 model) and CB1100SA (After ‘13 model). The A is an ABS model and the SA is the DLX

Anyway, on the wiring diagram the connectors at the top on the right and left. The rear one is top right labeled Option-Dummy (dummy is the cap) and WPC 4P ® The R means red. 4P means 4 pins.

The one in the headlight shell is top left under the switchgear labeled Option-Dummy WPC 2P ® 2P means 2 pins.
Ok. Now, for another dilemma. The 2014s were offered as Standard (black only) and DLX (red only). Mine is identified as a CB1100E. If my cycle had ABS, there should be a module somewhere I've never been able to find. My dealer back then said I was buying the first Standard of two he ordered. He special ordered a DLX for another customer who wanted red. He only had the one I bought on display. The other was still crated in his warehouse. Dealer said he had a lot of lookers but I was the only one to make a decent offer (which means I paid too much!)
I'll have to rethink any future electrical add-ons. I have 2 appliances on the spare connector in the headlight bucket already -a radar detector and external speaker for it. When I had a El Cheapo Chinese radio on my bike I had it straight-wired to the battery, as the radio had an on/off switch but it was a piece of junk.


12-28-2020, 09:00 AM
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RE: Spare connectors/Oxford heated grips
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If your bike has ABS it has an ABS light on the dash. Comes on when you turn on the ignition and goes off when the bike is moving ~6mph.

IIRC, in the US the 2014 models were the red DLX and the black non ABS model that we call the standard on this board.

Canada may have gotten ‘14 ABS models. Cormanus is the man on different models like CB1100E and so on.


12-28-2020, 10:01 AM
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RE: Spare connectors/Oxford heated grips
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(12-28-2020, 10:01 AM)Lord Popgun_imp Wrote: If your bike has ABS it has an ABS light on the dash. Comes on when you turn on the ignition and goes off when the bike is moving ~6mph.

IIRC, in the US the 2014 models were the red DLX and the black non ABS model that we call the standard on this board.

Canada may have gotten ‘14 ABS models. Cormanus is the man on different models like CB1100E and so on.

All CB1100 that includes; white-2013 cABS, blue-2014, black-2016 and red-2017 sold in Canada have ABS.
This also includes all RS models and many more Honda motorcycles.
Hope this helps.


12-28-2020, 10:22 AM
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RE: Spare connectors/Oxford heated grips
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(12-28-2020, 10:22 AM)peterbaron_imp Wrote:
(12-28-2020, 10:01 AM)Lord Popgun_imp Wrote: If your bike has ABS it has an ABS light on the dash. Comes on when you turn on the ignition and goes off when the bike is moving ~6mph.

IIRC, in the US the 2014 models were the red DLX and the black non ABS model that we call the standard on this board.

Canada may have gotten ‘14 ABS models. Cormanus is the man on different models like CB1100E and so on.

All CB1100 that includes; white-2013 cABS, blue-2014, black-2016 and red-2017 sold in Canada have ABS.
This also includes all RS models and many more Honda motorcycles.
Hope this helps.

All CB1100 that includes; white-2013 cABS, blue-2014, black-2016 and red-2017 sold in Canada have ABS.
This also includes all RS models and many more Honda motorcycles.
Hope this helps. Since there is but one factory repair manual, us amatuer wrenchers must know what we are looking for in said manual. No ABS on my bike but wish I had done more research before my impulse buy of the CB1100 Standard. I've owned 4 BMW cycles and all had ABS (problematic as it was on the earlier models) but my early 90s K75 had ABS. My 2008 Goldwing was so dependable and repair-free but with my medical conditions I couldn't get on it much less ride it. In fact since 2017 I haven't been able to ride anything but I am getting antsy but what happens? A cold front engulfed us recently and I don't venture out unless it is 50+°.
Thanks for the quick assistance. Based on another post on this forum wherein a pic was posted showing the wiring to the optional "Dummy" connectors, it would appear someone cut the connectors off the 4 wire harnesses but labeled the hot wire and the ground wire for us dummies to use to power up when ignition switch is turned on. For the forthcoming project of heated grips I mentioned earlier, I can wire the module direct to the battery as Oxford says that "Battery Saver" button is actually the on/off switch for the grips.
When I get bored, I'm going to trace the wires from the dummy connectors to see where the other 3 wires go, and deduce what happens to a live wire when the switch is turned on. If I knew where to purchase the male 4 pin connector, maybe I could install some wires and cap them off and just wire up the red power and green ground.


12-28-2020, 11:24 AM
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RE: Spare connectors/Oxford heated grips
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This should be helpful to find that extra B+ connector near the battery as LP said.
Use a multimeter to test it prior using !!

I know one member has an iconic-analog/bakelite type...in perfect working condition Big Grin

http://cb1100forum.com/forum/showthread....connectors


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(12-28-2020, 11:36 AM)peterbaron_imp Wrote: This should be helpful to find that extra B+ connector near the battery as LP said.
Use a multimeter to test it prior using !!

I know one member has an iconic-analog/bakelite type...in perfect working condition Big Grin

http://cb1100forum.com/forum/showthread....connectors
I have a memory of someone stating B+ is the red wire and B- is the green in the harness attached to the "Dummy" connector. I'll double check before using. Where would I find the male 4 pin connector to slip into the dummy connector? Or, is it a female 4 pin I need? Are these common sized connectors?


12-28-2020, 12:07 PM
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