Wish I was on CB1100 on the Dragon!!!!

[VLJ_imp]

EmptySea Wrote:Also, “take your needles to another thread” was pretty clever, if I do say so myself. Lol
Doh! Can't believe I missed that!

[Ulvetanna_imp]

I suppose this is my fault by posting the video of Yellow Wolf, the intention of which was obviously misunderstood. I apologise.

I don't see any need for apology. It is interesting, I imagine, for less experienced motorcyclists to find that a "mastodon" like the Gold Wing can be ridden very quickly. But there were other features of that video, like the shockingly irresponsible way the guy was riding, that were bound to attract attention.

I don't call it thread drift at all. The thread was about riding the Dragon on any bike. So why not discuss something that's obviously way over the top?

I should think that any thread is just an opening for further conversation. Unless the posts begin to become completely outlandish or are in clear violation of the terms of the forum, why not just let the thread go along in affable fashion?

At any rate, a discussion of safe, skilled, responsible riding is always in order.

where the courage meets stupidity

Compared to what the guys I used to ride with did to each other on Mosquito Ridge and on the freeway, Yellow Snow's video is like an MSF Safety Training Course. These guys actually tried to shove each other off onto the shoulder while racing up there, and they were literally racing, on slicks-shod, track-prepped GSX-R1000s. They weren't just riding fast. They were flat-out racing, Isle of Man style, doing 150 mph through the alpine section of Mosquito Ridge, except these maniacs would do things like reach out and hit each other's kill switches, mid-corner.

They were also professional racers, and one was a professional stunt rider, as well. They could get away with it.

They buried a few of their friends, though, and I never did engage in any of their crap. For one thing, I wasn't good enough, plus I was never ballsy and/or stupid enough. I did have to bury my best friend, but we weren't riding anywhere near as crazily as those guys rode. Rather, he had a diabetic seizure which made him run wide and clamp down so hard on the brakes that he stoppied himself right into the grill of an oncoming river-rafting bus.

These days, I'm fairly worthless as a rider. I've lost the vast majority of my aggression.

I've ridden with and known plenty of guys who were supposedly great riders, racers, who thought they could get away with it.

Many are dead now. Because that stupid stuff does catch up with them.

I think a lot of riders believe that certain other riders just have some kind of magical skill that lets them ride idiotically.

I used to believe that myself, until we started scraping people off the pavement.

It was always the guy out front, the fastest guy, who bought it. Almost always anyway. Three of them come to mind right now.

No one can ride like that all the time and not have it eventually get them. Maybe not today, but someday, because the odds are not in their favor at all.

I cannot think of a single so-called "fast guy" on the street that has not had a serious or fatal accident over the last 35 years. Not one.

Speaking of racers, I have known, and worked closely with, racers at every level, from Formula One (now MotoGP) World Champions (three of these gents, with ten championships between them), AMA Pro Racing Champions (several), to club-level champions.

None of these had any special incantations to prevent them falling.

I would say ALL "racers" (any moron who managed to get a racing license with some club) who do this on the street are lousy racers and not very good people. That's been my experience.

Trying to convince young man seeking the point of singularity where the courage meets stupidity not to do so did not work, does not work and will not work. What we, that have seen some of the by-products of such endeavours should do instead, is to gently steer their search to such venues where there are no innocent bystanders and no spectators.

("No spectators" part is a whole different discussion, which I will table for now...)

I think rotor is saying, "Take that crap to the track."

EmptySea, forum threads go off on tangents. Always have, always will. I think you and everyone else here are all sharp enough to sort it out without getting bent out of shape about it.

Oh, you are so very clever...

"sharp enough"

"sort it out"

"bent out of shape"

I salute you, sir.

I do ask, was any of that deliberate, or are you yourself surprised you used those references? Because I find myself often making puns or using analogies/metaphors/similes intuitively and later on realising what I did.

EmptySea, forum threads go off on tangents. Always have, always will. I think you and everyone else here are all sharp enough to sort it out without getting bent out of shape about it.

Yep. I know that threads go off topic. I’m not bent out of shape that this one veered, in fact. I just thought that it was more polite than telling Ulvetanna that......................... Long paragraph deleted in further deference to politeness........

Also, “take your needles to another thread” was pretty clever, if I do say so myself. Lol

You are a gentleman, sir. A tip of the hat to you.

However, I think the thread would have been much more interesting had you told said Ulvetanna where he could, er, what he could do with his, umm...$#@!&%$# opinions.

EmptySea, forum threads go off on tangents. Always have, always will. I think you and everyone else here are all sharp enough to sort it out without getting bent out of shape about it.

Yep. I know that threads go off topic. I’m not bent out of shape that this one veered, in fact. I just thought that it was more polite than telling Ulvetanna that......................... Long paragraph deleted in further deference to politeness........

Also, “take your needles to another thread” was pretty clever, if I do say so myself. Lol

I agree, that was pretty good. I raise a glass to you, sir. Single malt, isn't it?

[VLJ_imp]

An Ulvetanna post with no actual text, just a modification?



(Edit: Oops, spoke too soon. Now the text is there. Hey, I should do the same thing now! I should modify this post, deleting everything, leaving only the time-stamped 'post modified by VLJ' blurb.)

[the Ferret]

Is that John Wick? (Keanu Reeves... Who actually has his own motorcycle company?)

His company's name is ARCH motorcycles, and actually builds a pretty good looking V twin motorcycle, however the price is for the higher end enthusiast.. Twice what a Motus costs.

[VLJ_imp]

Yep, that's Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure-era John Wick...errr... Keanu Reeves.

Big fan of MotoGP.

[Banned_imp]

Is that John Wick? (Keanu Reeves... Who actually has his own motorcycle company?)

His company's name is ARCH motorcycles, and actually builds a pretty good looking V twin motorcycle, however the price is for the higher end enthusiast.. Twice what a Motus costs.

He builds very cool bikes. Very industrial looking but clean at the same time. They are like works of art to me.

I don't think we can get them in Canada, not that it matters as they are out of my price range.