What bike would you most like for touring?

[pdedse]

its amazing, after 8 years and 65,000 miles on 2 CB 1100's, I still find it a most enjoyable motorcycle every time I ride it out of the driveway.

What's the stroy with the first one, did you buy a '13 and then liked the DLX '14 better when it came out the following year? Or was it something else?

[Cormanus]

It's (or was) all about the symmetry pdedse.

[GoldOxide_imp]

... or two is better than one? Twice the fun polishing twice the chrome.

[the Ferret]

its amazing, after 8 years and 65,000 miles on 2 CB 1100's, I still find it a most enjoyable motorcycle every time I ride it out of the driveway.

What's the stroy with the first one, did you buy a '13 and then liked the DLX '14 better when it came out the following year? Or was it something else?

What's the story with the first one, did you buy a '13 and then liked the DLX '14 better when it came out the following year? Or was it something else?
Yes I bought the 13 actually before it was released, rode it one year, 8400 miles then when the 14 dlx came out I traded the 13 in. Loved the new features on the DLX... the chrome waterfall head pipes, the dual exhaust (like Cormanus said, the symmetry of it), the 6 speed trans, the silver motor and wheels, the larger capacity fuel tank, the digital gear indicator, the additional polished parts here and there.

I think the 13 was sportier, I think the 14 is classier. Loved my 13, love my 14 dlx more.

[j3gq_imp]

Back to square one, imagine you want a real good tourer with the following specs:
- under 200 kg / 450 lbs. empty,
- gross at least 170 kg higher
- any power or torque (who cares at today's speed limits)
- overall good quality, comfort seat and position for 1, better for 2,
- and no matter how old.
What would you buy ?

[the Ferret]

IMO there are very few bikes worth touring on under 450#. As matter of fact I can't think of one. Especially one capable of two up touring.

Even the 900 Tracer GT weighs 474# without side cases according to Yamaha's spec sheet

https://www.yamahamotorsports.com/sport-...ifications

A Tracer 700GT is rated at 432 pounds without bags and hardware, so it would be just over your lower limit of 450 pounds with bags, but personally I would not tour 2 up on a 700cc parallel twin. I might tour single up on a 700 class bike. I'm sure 2 average people plus gear and packed luggage would exceed the mfgs GVWR.

and neither of those bikes include a trunk.

not sure what gross at least 170kg higher means?

[Redbird_imp]

Well, the CB500x has a curb weight of 430 lbs (that includes all fluids and a full tank of gas) and a 4.7 US gallon tank. That gives you 20 lbs to play with for accessoriess.

I don't know what the gross weight before it is considered overloaded is. And I don't think it would work as well for 2 up.

My old (1970) BMW R75/5 with a Vetter Windjammer fairing and gas in the tank - I've no idea how much gas - weighed 498 lbs when I had it on a certified scale. I remember this because the company I worked for at the time wanted me to go on a temporary assignment to California for a year and said they would pay for moving 500 lbs of personal stuff. I asked "any personal stuff, it dosen't matter what it is?" and they said "yes, that's right" so they got to move my BMW.

[Roper_imp]

Back to square one, imagine you want a real good tourer with the following specs:
- under 200 kg / 450 lbs. empty,
- gross at least 170 kg higher
- any power or torque (who cares at today's speed limits)
- overall good quality, comfort seat and position for 1, better for 2,
- and no matter how old.
What would you buy ?

[GoldOxide_imp]

IMO there are very few bikes worth touring on under 450#. As matter of fact I can't think of one. Especially one capable of two up touring.

Even the 900 Tracer GT weighs 474# without side cases according to Yamaha's spec sheet

https://www.yamahamotorsports.com/sport-...ifications

A Tracer 700GT is rated at 432 pounds without bags and hardware, so it would be just over your lower limit of 450 pounds with bags, but personally I would not tour 2 up on a 700cc parallel twin. I might tour single up on a 700 class bike. I'm sure 2 average people plus gear and packed luggage would exceed the mfgs GVWR.

and neither of those bikes include a trunk.

not sure what gross at least 170kg higher means?

Agreed with the 2-up opinion on a small-med twin.

However, I have seen 2-up (senior adults) on a Yamaha Majesty 400 with gear and bags and they did cross-Canada and into the U.S. of A. They slowed-up climbing mountain highways, but otherwise managed consistently. In its latter life I recall one cylinder consuming more oil than normal, but nothing major or "coal-rolling"-like.

[the Ferret]

lol we had 2 Majesty scooters. Fine scooters. I wouldn't consider touring on one unless I had no other option. Great for local running around though. I think the furthest I ever took one was about 250 miles round trip