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The switches on the most post-2012 look new Hondas (not carryover models) have the horn in the middle, just like Ducatis and Guzzis have had for years. Maybe it's a worldwide standard, since they sell many more bikes in Europe and England.
After 40 years of riding, I'll never get used to it, and the reason I sold my Guzzis.
There's enough distraction in riding than to have to think about it, especially in tense circumstances.
It will be interesting to see which way they go when they redesign the Gold Wing - the internet will just light up!
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When I got my '13 CB11 I was amazed to find that the control pods were identical to my 20 yr. old CB750. Piece of cake! I was really surprised that Honda decided to change that on the '14 models.
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(04-04-2015, 08:16 AM)pekingduck_imp Wrote: The switches on the most post-2012 look new Hondas (not carryover models) have the horn in the middle, just like Ducatis and Guzzis have had for years. Maybe it's a worldwide standard, since they sell many more bikes in Europe and England.
After 40 years of riding, I'll never get used to it, and the reason I sold my Guzzis.
There's enough distraction in riding than to have to think about it, especially in tense circumstances.
It will be interesting to see which way they go when they redesign the Gold Wing - the internet will just light up!
I think pekingduck hit the nail on the head. Even though "we" may think the U.S. market drivers the Japanese motorcycle designers, the reality is that the motorcycle market today is a world wide business and the U.S. market is just a small slide in the world wide pie.
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Ferret, the key words you used were "muscle memory". Horn and indicators are not the sort of thing you need to have to take time in deciding how to operate. Anyway, all fixed. Well done mate.
Cheers
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Got my switch!
Yes, the donut came with the switch (screws we extra).
Here's some trivia for those of you that are wondering why the 2013 has a donut...
Many moons ago, when motorcycles had carburetors, the donut was actually the manual chock lever, as you can see, grasshopper, from the threaded chock cable hole in the bottom of the 2013 CB1100 switch.
As ferret pointed out, the donut is not available as a seperate service part, so, if one had a need for a donut, one could order a manual chock lever from an earlier year (e.g. 17962-MN8-003) and simply hack off the arm.
TINK
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Tink make sure you put the right length screw in the right hole. I wasn't paying attention and when I ran the screw in I dimpled the switch out. Felt the resistance and stopped before poking a hole though.
also locator pin need to be redrilled. Measure twice. It's strange. Test put the switch on the bar and the bar end, and hold the grip up there for length and then put tape marking where the switch sits. I'm sure you will figure it out. I drilled mine wrong the first time.
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Good to know, ferret.
Hope to have time today to install the switch.
For reference, my 2000 VFR has the same switch, minus the PASS button.
I'll report back on my efforts.
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And I thought this was going to be sooooo easy....
I manage to break the headlight bulb while installing the new switch. Here's what happened:
I pull off the forward headlamp assembly from the housing and start pulling on the plug to unplug the headlight.
I pull, and I pull, and I pull some more... Hmmmmmm. It's stuck, I tell myself.
I pull so hard I'm stressing the retainer clip that holds the bulb into the housing, so, I remove the bulb from the housing being careful not to touch the glass element.
I start pulling again and wouldn't you know it, the bulb slips out of my fingers and the glass portion of the bulb snaps off. Time for a few choice word, quite a few choice words. Grrrrrrrr...
I have the Honda OEM shop manual, and before I got to this stage I looked in section 19 for some insight as to why the plug will not release from the bulbs connector blades. Hmmmmm, nothing there.
By dumb luck, I finally figured out that you have to squeeze the sides of the plug to release the locking pins inside the plug that index into the holes on the bulbs blades.
REALLY! The Honda OEM shop manual fails to mention this step, REALLY!
I pencil a note into my Honda OEM shop manual about this and moved on...
Now, I'm not a newbie mechanic, and I've have recent experience unplugging a Honda headlamp bulb, but this is the first time I've encountered a Honda headlight plug with internal locking tabs.
So that was a $30 lesson. Off to the Honda dealer for a new headlight bulb I go. D'oh!
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Oh man, Randy B talked about that in his headlight bulb change thread. Sorry to hear of the trouble, but you know this would be a good time to upgrade to a brighter bulb.
http://www.cb1100forum.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=595
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Thanks Tink,
I added that note to my service manual. Maybe you saved me $30 someday!!!
