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(10-01-2015, 08:55 AM)grover_imp Wrote: I don't think I'd ever go so far as to run straight pipes, but I do agree that there is an emotional component to hearing the muscular noise coming from your bike or car. I find the stock CB exhaust is so quiet that it detracts from the experience. There's a full exhaust system made by a Japanese company, called the K-Factory CSR. It eliminates the catalytic converter and has a removable standard baffle, available "race" baffle, and if you were so inclined (to get a noise violation), you could remove the baffle altogether.
There are a couple of owners on here that own that pipe and there are videos you can find of it on youtube.
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I have listed to a ton of vids on youtube, but not for the pipes you mention, will check them out. thanks! Are they a bolt on option or is retuning required?
(10-01-2015, 10:00 AM)activedirt_imp Wrote: (10-01-2015, 09:37 AM)WhiskeyUSMC1979_imp Wrote: Hey scout, just rock one of these on your helmet for when you bump into another CB owner:
Hahahaha!
Don't sweat it too much. Build what you like, the way you like it. Just know that the typical jockeys on these noble Honda steel steeds are a bit long in the tooth. They don't share the same idea of "tuning" that you do. They're good guys full of great tips and tricks. They're just not "loud and fast".
They are quick and refined. There's a difference.
Good luck with whatever you decide to purchase and however you decide to modify it to suit your taste.
Ride safe. ATGATT. Rubber side down.
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Well done USMC, I am impressed with your diplomacy. Are you are tactfal-jar-head; confusing!
BTW: Welcome Scout since you live in the "Natural State", post some pictures, dude of the land around ya.
Well done USMC, I am impressed with your diplomacy. Are you are tactfal-jar-head; confusing!
BTW: Welcome Scout since you live in the "Natural State", post some pictures, dude of the land around ya.
It was a nice piece of diplomacy, wasn't it? I love living in Arkansas. The area is very friendly to bikers. Here that mostly means a big CC harley and straights. Fishtails are very popular... We have several festivals and parades because the area loves the tourists and the bikes. Bikes, Blues, and BBQ is one of my favorites. I just bought a cam for riding. I'll see if I cant get a ride in this weekend and post a few stills from the vid.
(10-01-2015, 12:48 PM)EmptySea_imp Wrote: So...there's been a little talk in other threads about performance problems when owners have installed modified exhausts. Most time, most folks say the the stock ecu will compensate or that you may have to bypass th 02 sensor. I'll be the first to admit that I don't have full knowledge of how the exhaust interacts with an effects the fuel mixture, but some one her does, so I'm asking.... Wouldn't going with straight pipes and removing the cat. create more potential for performance problems than an aftermarket system designed for this bike?
Oh.... and make your bike as noisy as you want, Scout. Your noisy bike will not hurt our reputation. It's just one bike. You should know, though, that way more than 50% of the riders I know, and I know a great many riders of all manner of motorcycle, think that straight pipes are irritating. Personally, I don't care for the noise myself and I refuse to ride behind anyone whose bike is that loud. Again, do what you want...but remember that probably 6 of 10 riders you will meet out there will think you're a dips**t.
I am going to go ahead and guess that this is a regional/cultural thing. In my area, way more than the national average of around 40% of bikes are harleys. Probably more like 60-70. A very noticable percentage are straight pipes or hollowed out mufflers. Stock pipes are a huge minority. The remainder have something like vance and hines or screaming eagle aftermarket systems. Few would be considered quiet. Even the non-bikers (cagers) will give you a friendly ribbing over a quiet bike. My shadow riding buddies and I are huge fans of V&H short shots. We are sparsely populated and used to local dirt tracks running all friday night, jacked up trucks, and t-buckets with open headers or burned out glass packs. Volume is not a huge issue here. Complaints of neighbors shooting in their back yards usually stem from not inviting everyone else to come shoot too (or alcohol, which is a real and scary issue). We do roll up the streets and shut off our noise makers when the sun goes down though. I get that where you guys live may be very different. We really do things our own way here. Sometimes that way seems backwards and sometimes it may be wrong. We really don't fret a noisy bike/car or call their owners dipshi*s. If we did, we'd have to do it in front of a mirror. We have or had one too.
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(10-01-2015, 03:51 AM)scout48_imp Wrote: Hi all. I am about a month away from a new bike and it will either be a CB1100 or a Bonneville. Grew up with and ride with Harley guys. My last bike was a shadow though. Really liked how darned dependable the thing was. Wife has it now.  I lean toward the CB1100 because I trust Honda's reputation for reliable bikes and appreciate their much more developed dealer network. Thing is, test rode a CB with some buddies and can't hear it in the pack. I haven't liked the sound of most of the exhaust systems I have found, though the "Jimmy tune" stock mod on this forum is promising... I found a video of a guy removing his cat. while he had it cut open, he started it. WOW! even the monster CI harley dudes I run with raised an eyebrow. Anyone know of someone who has done a straight pipe or open headers with turndowns the right way to be sure they aren't screwing up fuel mixture and so on? I know it is loud and not some people's thing, but it is mine. Any help is much appreciated. Thanks in advance!
Scout
I'm the Jimmy of "Jimmy tune" fame and I agree with you, the stock exhaust is too quiet. Years ago I had a '99 Nighthawk 750 and I put a Vance and Hines exhaust and jet kit in it and loved the sound. It was loud but not obnoxious. I was hoping to duplicate that sound by modifying my stock muffler, and IMO I came close with almost no expense. I haven't touched it since I posted those pictures and the sound clip because for me it's just right the way it is now.
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(10-01-2015, 09:22 PM)The ferret_imp Wrote: Ok..new day.
First of all I want to apologise to scout for being less than welcoming. Not like me. I am usually one of the first to welcome any new members and have been since the day I joined which was day 1 for the forum. I think this is a very friendly and welcoming forum especially considering the wide and varied age groups this bike seems to attract. People on this forum are respectful, friendly, helpful, funny and very accepting imo. I have been on many internet forums in the last 15 years. This is one of the good ones.
We all have our hot button issues I suppose. Issues where you feel the need to say something. For some it may be ethanol, for others possible over heating, and I guess for me that issue is loud pipes. I actually have 3 hot button issues... Loud pipes, stunting on public highways, and using public highways for a racetrack. Maybe I am getting old. I find all three of those to not only be socially irresponsible, but damaging to motorcycling as a whole. I have a hard time believing anyone would think that doing any of those would be ok. I love motorcycling. One of the reasons I frequent motorcycle forums. Doing anything that threatens motorcycling as a sport raises my dander. Like I said maybe I am getting old.
Adult response. Seems like you may have come across shorter than you intended and I took it a little personally. I mod a few different forums for other interests and take mod comments to be representative of the desires of the folks running the forum. I am also kind of stickler on tech vs opinion posts. Ask me how rig a shocker to a seat when the left turn signal comes on and I will tell you how without asking why or if it is safe/moral. Guess it is one of my buttons. This forum seems looser on that. I suppose if I want to play in this sandbox, I wiI posted above about some possible cultural differences on how pipes are perceived. I will add another comment. I live in a very rural area. Trees and fields line the roads. Soft surfaces that kill sound. I have ridden with my group in a city. Buildings and pavement all around. It is amazing how much that changes things.
Anyway, my point is that I am sorry for taking it personally and we are square in my eyes.
(10-02-2015, 01:36 AM)mininsx_imp Wrote: (10-01-2015, 03:51 AM)scout48_imp Wrote: Hi all. I am about a month away from a new bike and it will either be a CB1100 or a Bonneville. Grew up with and ride with Harley guys. My last bike was a shadow though. Really liked how darned dependable the thing was. Wife has it now. I lean toward the CB1100 because I trust Honda's reputation for reliable bikes and appreciate their much more developed dealer network. Thing is, test rode a CB with some buddies and can't hear it in the pack. I haven't liked the sound of most of the exhaust systems I have found, though the "Jimmy tune" stock mod on this forum is promising... I found a video of a guy removing his cat. while he had it cut open, he started it. WOW! even the monster CI harley dudes I run with raised an eyebrow. Anyone know of someone who has done a straight pipe or open headers with turndowns the right way to be sure they aren't screwing up fuel mixture and so on? I know it is loud and not some people's thing, but it is mine. Any help is much appreciated. Thanks in advance!
Scout
I'm the Jimmy of "Jimmy tune" fame and I agree with you, the stock exhaust is too quiet. Years ago I had a '99 Nighthawk 750 and I put a Vance and Hines exhaust and jet kit in it and loved the sound. It was loud but not obnoxious. I was hoping to duplicate that sound by modifying my stock muffler, and IMO I came close with almost no expense. I haven't touched it since I posted those pictures and the sound clip because for me it's just right the way it is now.
Much thanks for stopping by. That thread you posted in is what got me looking for modded stock exhausts. There I found this:
and drooled over the low end sounds this beastie made. it could use some refining and is louder than needed, but it is beautiful. So deep and savage. Two of my Harley riding buddies who had been ignoring me and my "rice fueled pursuits" while I googled exhausts snapped their heads to the screen and raised an eyebrow when that thing woke up. I have enough caveman in me to love that savage sound and enough IT guy in me to want a Honda. I really wish the guy who posted in the same thread as you with the straight pipe had done a video of his. He has me dying of curiosity.
P.S. The Jimmy Tune has forever made you famous to me. I could see what you were going for and liked how you went about it. A thinker on a budget. You have got to respect that.
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Scout...first of all, The ferret is always short. 
Second, I failed to mention two things in my post that you just quoted: 1) I have an aftermarket exhaust largely because I found the stock too quiet. I just happen to find that straight pipes are too loud for me ears. and 2) Our big motorcycle trip this past summer was to northwest Arkansas and it certainly is a great place to ride. I wish Tropical Storm Bill had not chased us out of Harrison two days early.
Lastly, I think you will find lots of valuable information here on how to modify your CB1100 and some thoughts from some members why a particular mod won't work or is not a good idea. Frankly, I think this forum welcomes disagreement as long as it is presented in an agreeable manner.
Post some dang photos! 
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(10-01-2015, 03:51 AM)scout48_imp Wrote: Hi all. I am about a month away from a new bike and it will either be a CB1100 or a Bonneville. Grew up with and ride with Harley guys. My last bike was a shadow though. Really liked how darned dependable the thing was. Wife has it now. I lean toward the CB1100 because I trust Honda's reputation for reliable bikes and appreciate their much more developed dealer network. Thing is, test rode a CB with some buddies and can't hear it in the pack. I haven't liked the sound of most of the exhaust systems I have found, though the "Jimmy tune" stock mod on this forum is promising... I found a video of a guy removing his cat. while he had it cut open, he started it. WOW! even the monster CI harley dudes I run with raised an eyebrow. Anyone know of someone who has done a straight pipe or open headers with turndowns the right way to be sure they aren't screwing up fuel mixture and so on? I know it is loud and not some people's thing, but it is mine. Any help is much appreciated. Thanks in advance!
Scout
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Scout, if you manage to locate a CB1100 Deluxe and decide to change the pipes, I want first dibs on them if they're immaculate. They'll be worth something in about ten years. PM me if you're interested in selling.
BTW, I'm of the camp that hates loud pipes, but this is America. Live and let live.
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You found my video on YouTube. I don't come on the CB forums much since I sold my CB, but I ran a decatted header with an Arrow exhaust. It was decently quiet. I never hurt any feelings with it.
If you decide you want to attempt chopping up a header and muffler, I have a spare of both that are collecting dust. Decatting an OEM muffler is going to be very similar to buying an aftermarket header (except the OEM header is thicker wall tubing, stainless, and very nice in appearance). So you won't be harming much.
Shoot me a PM if you'd like details.
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Like my Mammy used to say, if you ain't got nothin nice to say, don't say it. I have a Harley that has aftermkt exhaust and I love the way it sounds, fits the character of the bike perfect, but imo the CB dosn't look good loud, go for the Triumph.
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I never owned an original CB750, but I've been around a couple. Seems to me that everyone swooned over the Kerker exhaust on those older bikes. They weren't what I'd classify as a quiet exhaust but they certainly weren't obnoxiously loud.
Now, straight pipes may be considered the radical end of the spectrum, and stock the Valium induced quietness at the other end. There is SO MUCH room between the two, though.
Heck, the future plans for my blacked out beauty include a louder exhaust, led lighting, and a fair amount of carbon fiber work. That may not garner me a lot of praise with the purists, but I have great news for them...
I'm doing it to MY bike, not theirs. I wouldn't ask them to pay for it, I won't ask that they go in on the insurance with me. Heck, I wouldn't even ask them to ride it unless they provided copious amounts of whiskey and/or Guinness. Hahaha
I guess my point is, we are all a little worried that Honda will stop producing these bikes and with that we will lose some aftermarket support. The best way to keep the interest alive is through innovation. Honda themselves has realized it and shown it through the newest concepts. Wether or not they actually see the market remains to be seen, but it is innovation and CHANGE none the less.
I know change can be scary, but it's the only constant, and we have to accept it. After all, if we all liked the same things that grandpa liked... we'd be sleeping with grandma!
But what do I know, I'm just an old Marine stuck in Minnesota.
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