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(10-01-2015, 06:05 AM)scout48_imp Wrote: Because I like louder bikes and would change factory exhaust you don't want me to even own the same bike as you? Kind of a shocking welcome from a forum mod. Loud pipes (exhaust mods are probably the most common mod to a bike) pale in comparison.
Popgun, thanks, That is one of the threads I read that got me interested in the idea. I may just PM gbpack89 and see if he had any tuning issues afterward since asking tech questions about loud pipes in the tech area brings disdain from forum moderation. Meet the nicest people on a Honda.
The forum members don't take kindly to young whippersnappers who would consider desecrating the glorious stock cb1100. Keep in mind, these new CB' s are made for people who remember owning or dreaming of the older models, and nearly all of the 2500 or so owners in the states seem to be old enough to be original riders. The few hundred forum members are all mainly retired, they have plenty of time to ceaselessly comment on how changing the bikes mechanicals is frowned upon. Frankly, it's not a very welcoming group unless you like black rubber on your brake levers or consider removing tank stickers a 'mod'.
Regarding the bonneville, from my limited understanding, this CB outperforms the bonnies, however the triumphs have tons of aftermarket parts and plenty of friendly forums. But if you want a super sweet ride that is just as rare, then find one of these bikes and live it up!
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So...there's been a little talk in other threads about performance problems when owners have installed modified exhausts. Most time, most folks say the the stock ecu will compensate or that you may have to bypass th 02 sensor. I'll be the first to admit that I don't have full knowledge of how the exhaust interacts with an effects the fuel mixture, but some one her does, so I'm asking.... Wouldn't going with straight pipes and removing the cat. create more potential for performance problems than an aftermarket system designed for this bike?
Oh.... and make your bike as noisy as you want, Scout. Your noisy bike will not hurt our reputation. It's just one bike. You should know, though, that way more than 50% of the riders I know, and I know a great many riders of all manner of motorcycle, think that straight pipes are irritating. Personally, I don't care for the noise myself and I refuse to ride behind anyone whose bike is that loud. Again, do what you want...but remember that probably 6 of 10 riders you will meet out there will think you're a dips**t.
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Good read fiscy, and I completely agree with having your bike dyno tuned after making mods to your exhaust and or air intake to get the most bang for the buck. I am hoping gsynder70 is joking when he states most people on this forum are keeping their bikes completely stock. Most of the posts here are about what mods work or improve the individual appearance of these bikes. That is why I came here, to find information on what works and what doesn't. Not everybody has the same taste. Not to mention we all come in different shapes and sizes.
Also, has anybody tried putting a 4 inch section of inter tube on the inside cone of the stock muffler? That is a cheap mod that will give your bike a bitchin exhaust note.
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(10-01-2015, 12:17 PM)Gsnyder70_imp Wrote: (10-01-2015, 06:05 AM)scout48_imp Wrote: Because I like louder bikes and would change factory exhaust you don't want me to even own the same bike as you? Kind of a shocking welcome from a forum mod. Loud pipes (exhaust mods are probably the most common mod to a bike) pale in comparison.
Popgun, thanks, That is one of the threads I read that got me interested in the idea. I may just PM gbpack89 and see if he had any tuning issues afterward since asking tech questions about loud pipes in the tech area brings disdain from forum moderation. Meet the nicest people on a Honda.
The forum members don't take kindly to young whippersnappers who would consider desecrating the glorious stock cb1100. Keep in mind, these new CB' s are made for people who remember owning or dreaming of the older models, and nearly all of the 2500 or so owners in the states seem to be old enough to be original riders. The few hundred forum members are all mainly retired, they have plenty of time to ceaselessly comment on how changing the bikes mechanicals is frowned upon. Frankly, it's not a very welcoming group unless you like black rubber on your brake levers or consider removing tank stickers a 'mod'.
Regarding the bonneville, from my limited understanding, this CB outperforms the bonnies, however the triumphs have tons of aftermarket parts and plenty of friendly forums. But if you want a super sweet ride that is just as rare, then find one of these bikes and live it up!
Ok.. So I feel compelled to respond to this post, because I feel it is wrong on nearly every point..
1) Forum members, generally, love that younger riders are attracted to this motorcycle, regardless of said whippersnapper's desire to modify it.
2) Can't comment on the 2500 or so owners in the US or their ages.
3) Of the 550 or so members that answered the "age" poll, only 7% are above the common retirement age of 65. I don't know of any other survey here that asks specifically about retirement status. Those that are retired seem to be too busy riding to comment ceaselessly on anything except how much the love their motorcycle.
4) I do see that some people caution others about making certain mechanical modifications to their bikes, but most of the time, those comments are in response to a question posed by the would-be modifier. Futher, most of the regulars here seem to enjoy seeing what others have done to their bikes even if they think that the changes are unnecessary or unattractive.
5) In June, you thanked everyone for their "warm welcomes". Sorry to hear that you no longer feel that way. I have felt very welcome here and have found the forum very helpful with mechanical information, accessory recommendations, and ride reports. There's a whole section with all types of modifications folks can do, many with step-by-step instruction.
6) RLETs are an irony, but I don't think you get that. Yes, RLETs and removing the tank stickers are relatively silly things, but no more silly than changing the exhaust simply so that it is louder...all three are about asthetics, not performance.
7) Never turn your bike off at a stoplight...Oops wrong rant. 
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Ok..new day.
First of all I want to apologise to scout for being less than welcoming. Not like me. I am usually one of the first to welcome any new members and have been since the day I joined which was day 1 for the forum. I think this is a very friendly and welcoming forum especially considering the wide and varied age groups this bike seems to attract. People on this forum are respectful, friendly, helpful, funny and very accepting imo. I have been on many internet forums in the last 15 years. This is one of the good ones.
We all have our hot button issues I suppose. Issues where you feel the need to say something. For some it may be ethanol, for others possible over heating, and I guess for me that issue is loud pipes. I actually have 3 hot button issues... Loud pipes, stunting on public highways, and using public highways for a racetrack. Maybe I am getting old. I find all three of those to not only be socially irresponsible, but damaging to motorcycling as a whole. I have a hard time believing anyone would think that doing any of those would be ok. I love motorcycling. One of the reasons I frequent motorcycle forums. Doing anything that threatens motorcycling as a sport raises my dander. Like I said maybe I am getting old.
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If straight pipes can be considered an unimpeded path from the engine's exhaust port to the end of the pipe, I'm running straight pipes (sort of). My headers are completely open, and if you look through my exhaust pipe you can see a central opening clean through, albeit only an inch in diameter. Somehow the exhaust still muffles the sound. I'm guessing gas expansion forces the exhaust through the mesh pipes that surround the opening.
Ok, I'm going to drink my coffee now and shut up..........
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Apologies to those that have read what i originally wrote but it really does not warrant a response.
Thus I have deleted it.
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Not sure if my question was answered... Does running straight pipes cause performance problems that require other modifications to correct those problems?
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Some loud pipes I can't stand either....the popping and backfiring upon deceleration is very annoying, my chopper use to do this, I hated it, did the pair valve removal, now it is loud and sweet rolling on and off the throttle, I don't blast it through my neighborhood, but you do hear me coming, they always look up and wave. this is no different then the ups jets that I hear flying over my house getting ready to land. Some of the young kids in my neighborhood will give me the roll the throttle hand signal an I will burp the pipes a little for them, they get a quick smile from it, sometimes they just wave and I wave back. I have other young teenage kids in my neighborhood that have dirt bikes that ride in a woods/field about a quarter of a mile from my house, I can't see them ride, but I can hear them, it is kinda loud, but it doesn't bother me cause I'm thinking how much fun they are having and wish I was physically able to ride with them, they have invited me many times, they don't know how lucky they are to be able to have a place to ride in this area without having to trailer to get somewhere. There are two neighbors that allow them to ride between there houses to get there.
I'm OK with my CB being quiet, however I wish I wasn't cheap and buy a stain tune slip-on, maybe one day, my valkyrie has a sweet but not loud sound of it's own, my enduro is almost as quiet as the CB, again to cheap to buy and fmf pipe with fuel controller. I could go on and on and this is not a rant, please trust me on this.  however empty sea I don't appreciate the dips..t comment, rather strong in my opinion....  Again, ferret I do appreciate who you are and what you contribute here... 
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Hey scout welcome to the forum. I owned a bonneville (thruxton) with predator pipes and pod filters. It really was a beautiful sounding bike the CB will never sound like that. That 360 degree parallel twin has a very unique soundtrack that is just very satisfying. So if a good sounding motorcycle is your only requisite i'd consider that. That said i have a 2 bros slip on and the bike sounds like an old sportscar revving out https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XV2N6bP33ck. It's not that loud and nowhere near as pleasant sounding as the bonne but it sure is fun to wind out. The CB is a flat out far better motorcycle than the bonne on all other accounts, and for the first time can be had for around the same price!. I just bought arrow headers for my bike and am waiting on gaskets to install because i'm one of the aforementioned loud and fast guys ! if the bike ends up sounding like this i'd be pretty satisfied https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l619DuIdaSk So you have to ask yourself do you want to sound fast or be fast (comparitively). For the latter refer to the Big honda I4.
REMEMBER YOUNG SKYWALKER LOUD PIPES DON"T ALWAYS SOUND GOOD AND GOOD SOUNDING PIPES DON"T HAVE TO BE LOUD.
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