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I've had mixed success with dual-compound front tires over the years. The centers tend to wear relatively well, but the sides don't, and over time, a very pronounced ridge develops between the hard center and the soft sides, to the point that the tire's profile is ruined (usually within about 4000 miles). Different bike, but I've started using the Bridgestone T30GT on my heavy K1200RS. The front is a single compound and has maintained its profile very well. The rear is a dual compound. I've been very impressed so far. Ferret, perhaps something to consider for your ST if you've not been pleased with the wear of your Michelins. As far as my CB, I've been pleased with the OEM Bridgestones.
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(08-11-2016, 12:30 AM)mininsx_imp Wrote: I put a set of Metzler Roadtec Z8 Interact on last week because the rear comes in stock size. I like them very much so far and the rear is a dual-compound so it should last, too.
http://metzeler.com/site/us/products/tyr...logue.html Looks like a great choice; there's no longer any reason to fit oversize tires with several excellent choices available in the correct sizes.
To rehash my credentials, bought my standard in July 2013 and there were not many tire choices. Folks were sort of pushed into using too-large tires for the rear fitment for a couple of years, but now we've got a good selection available.
Z8's look like a very good option here, good handling and grip and likely very good wear.
(08-11-2016, 01:17 AM)LongRanger_imp Wrote: I've had mixed success with dual-compound front tires over the years. The centers tend to wear relatively well, but the sides don't, and over time, a very pronounced ridge develops between the hard center and the soft sides, to the point that the tire's profile is ruined (usually within about 4000 miles). Different bike, but I've started using the Bridgestone T30GT on my heavy K1200RS. The front is a single compound and has maintained its profile very well. The rear is a dual compound. I've been very impressed so far. Ferret, perhaps something to consider for your ST if you've not been pleased with the wear of your Michelins. As far as my CB, I've been pleased with the OEM Bridgestones. Must be old tech or something. Never seen that happen. What year and brand of tire?
My 2012 GSX-R 750 track bike has only ever run Dunlop Q3's (a dual-compound tire) and the sides get a lot more wear than the center.
Certain tracks that are very high-speed and work one side of the tire more than the other necessitate removal of the tire early, but those "take-offs" can then be saved for used on slower tracks with a more balanced mix of turns.
The boundary between the hard/soft area can be seen but never any deformation or handling issues.
The Conti's don't really have a dual-compound; they have a curing process that treats the center and sides differently to provide greater longevity to the center of the tire, so it's more of a true blending.
Dual-compound tires are very common these days.
(08-11-2016, 12:30 AM)mininsx_imp Wrote: I put a set of Metzler Roadtec Z8 Interact on last week because the rear comes in stock size. I like them very much so far and the rear is a dual-compound so it should last, too.
http://metzeler.com/site/us/products/tyr...logue.html Keep us posted on these tires, will ya? I might want to try a set after I get tired of looking at my Conti's.
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I will check out the Metzlers for my next go round. Never felt "forced" to have the slightly larger Michelin tire, though, and I would hardly describe them as "too-large". Describing the PR3s in this manner may lead someone to believe that the Michelins are a bad choice when, in fact, they are a very good choice.
It is good to know that there are several good choices out there to meet a rider's particular needs.
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(08-11-2016, 12:30 AM)mininsx_imp Wrote: I put a set of Metzler Roadtec Z8 Interact on last week because the rear comes in stock size. I like them very much so far and the rear is a dual-compound so it should last, too.
http://metzeler.com/site/us/products/tyr...logue.html
same here
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Happy with the factory installed Dunlops..
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(08-11-2016, 02:33 AM)Ulvetanna_imp Wrote: (08-11-2016, 12:30 AM)mininsx_imp Wrote: I put a set of Metzler Roadtec Z8 Interact on last week because the rear comes in stock size. I like them very much so far and the rear is a dual-compound so it should last, too.
http://metzeler.com/site/us/products/tyr...logue.html Looks like a great choice; there's no longer any reason to fit oversize tires with several excellent choices available in the correct sizes.
To rehash my credentials, bought my standard in July 2013 and there were not many tire choices. Folks were sort of pushed into using too-large tires for the rear fitment for a couple of years, but now we've got a good selection available.
Z8's look like a very good option here, good handling and grip and likely very good wear.
(08-11-2016, 01:17 AM)LongRanger_imp Wrote: I've had mixed success with dual-compound front tires over the years. The centers tend to wear relatively well, but the sides don't, and over time, a very pronounced ridge develops between the hard center and the soft sides, to the point that the tire's profile is ruined (usually within about 4000 miles). Different bike, but I've started using the Bridgestone T30GT on my heavy K1200RS. The front is a single compound and has maintained its profile very well. The rear is a dual compound. I've been very impressed so far. Ferret, perhaps something to consider for your ST if you've not been pleased with the wear of your Michelins. As far as my CB, I've been pleased with the OEM Bridgestones. Must be old tech or something. Never seen that happen. What year and brand of tire?
My 2012 GSX-R 750 track bike has only ever run Dunlop Q3's (a dual-compound tire) and the sides get a lot more wear than the center.
Certain tracks that are very high-speed and work one side of the tire more than the other necessitate removal of the tire early, but those "take-offs" can then be saved for used on slower tracks with a more balanced mix of turns.
The boundary between the hard/soft area can be seen but never any deformation or handling issues.
The Conti's don't really have a dual-compound; they have a curing process that treats the center and sides differently to provide greater longevity to the center of the tire, so it's more of a true blending.
Dual-compound tires are very common these days.
(08-11-2016, 12:30 AM)mininsx_imp Wrote: I put a set of Metzler Roadtec Z8 Interact on last week because the rear comes in stock size. I like them very much so far and the rear is a dual-compound so it should last, too.
http://metzeler.com/site/us/products/tyr...logue.html Keep us posted on these tires, will ya? I might want to try a set after I get tired of looking at my Conti's. Looks like a great choice; there's no longer any reason to fit oversize tires with several excellent choices available in the correct sizes.
To rehash my credentials, bought my standard in July 2013 and there were not many tire choices. Folks were sort of pushed into using too-large tires for the rear fitment for a couple of years, but now we've got a good selection available.
Z8's look like a very good option here, good handling and grip and likely very good wear.
(08-11-2016, 01:17 AM)LongRanger_imp Wrote: I've had mixed success with dual-compound front tires over the years. The centers tend to wear relatively well, but the sides don't, and over time, a very pronounced ridge develops between the hard center and the soft sides, to the point that the tire's profile is ruined (usually within about 4000 miles). Different bike, but I've started using the Bridgestone T30GT on my heavy K1200RS. The front is a single compound and has maintained its profile very well. The rear is a dual compound. I've been very impressed so far. Ferret, perhaps something to consider for your ST if you've not been pleased with the wear of your Michelins. As far as my CB, I've been pleased with the OEM Bridgestones. Must be old tech or something. Never seen that happen. What year and brand of tire?
My 2012 GSX-R 750 track bike has only ever run Dunlop Q3's (a dual-compound tire) and the sides get a lot more wear than the center.
Certain tracks that are very high-speed and work one side of the tire more than the other necessitate removal of the tire early, but those "take-offs" can then be saved for used on slower tracks with a more balanced mix of turns.
The boundary between the hard/soft area can be seen but never any deformation or handling issues.
The Conti's don't really have a dual-compound; they have a curing process that treats the center and sides differently to provide greater longevity to the center of the tire, so it's more of a true blending.
Dual-compound tires are very common these days.
(08-11-2016, 12:30 AM)mininsx_imp Wrote: I put a set of Metzler Roadtec Z8 Interact on last week because the rear comes in stock size. I like them very much so far and the rear is a dual-compound so it should last, too.
http://metzeler.com/site/us/products/tyr...logue.html Keep us posted on these tires, will ya? I might want to try a set after I get tired of looking at my Conti's.
I've put close to a hundred miles on them now (lot of rain here in KY) and the handling is sweet, just like it was when I got the bike. The only thing I've noticed that's different is the ride is just a bit harsher than before, probably due to a stiffer sidewall, which may change with more miles. Most people probably wouldn't notice it.
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Thanks Ya'll. Will be buying soon.
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(08-13-2016, 01:54 AM)mininsx_imp Wrote: (08-11-2016, 02:33 AM)Ulvetanna_imp Wrote: (08-11-2016, 12:30 AM)mininsx_imp Wrote: I put a set of Metzler Roadtec Z8 Interact on last week because the rear comes in stock size. I like them very much so far and the rear is a dual-compound so it should last, too.
http://metzeler.com/site/us/products/tyr...logue.html Looks like a great choice; there's no longer any reason to fit oversize tires with several excellent choices available in the correct sizes.
To rehash my credentials, bought my standard in July 2013 and there were not many tire choices. Folks were sort of pushed into using too-large tires for the rear fitment for a couple of years, but now we've got a good selection available.
Z8's look like a very good option here, good handling and grip and likely very good wear.
(08-11-2016, 01:17 AM)LongRanger_imp Wrote: I've had mixed success with dual-compound front tires over the years. The centers tend to wear relatively well, but the sides don't, and over time, a very pronounced ridge develops between the hard center and the soft sides, to the point that the tire's profile is ruined (usually within about 4000 miles). Different bike, but I've started using the Bridgestone T30GT on my heavy K1200RS. The front is a single compound and has maintained its profile very well. The rear is a dual compound. I've been very impressed so far. Ferret, perhaps something to consider for your ST if you've not been pleased with the wear of your Michelins. As far as my CB, I've been pleased with the OEM Bridgestones. Must be old tech or something. Never seen that happen. What year and brand of tire?
My 2012 GSX-R 750 track bike has only ever run Dunlop Q3's (a dual-compound tire) and the sides get a lot more wear than the center.
Certain tracks that are very high-speed and work one side of the tire more than the other necessitate removal of the tire early, but those "take-offs" can then be saved for used on slower tracks with a more balanced mix of turns.
The boundary between the hard/soft area can be seen but never any deformation or handling issues.
The Conti's don't really have a dual-compound; they have a curing process that treats the center and sides differently to provide greater longevity to the center of the tire, so it's more of a true blending.
Dual-compound tires are very common these days.
(08-11-2016, 12:30 AM)mininsx_imp Wrote: I put a set of Metzler Roadtec Z8 Interact on last week because the rear comes in stock size. I like them very much so far and the rear is a dual-compound so it should last, too.
http://metzeler.com/site/us/products/tyr...logue.html Keep us posted on these tires, will ya? I might want to try a set after I get tired of looking at my Conti's. Looks like a great choice; there's no longer any reason to fit oversize tires with several excellent choices available in the correct sizes.
To rehash my credentials, bought my standard in July 2013 and there were not many tire choices. Folks were sort of pushed into using too-large tires for the rear fitment for a couple of years, but now we've got a good selection available.
Z8's look like a very good option here, good handling and grip and likely very good wear.
(08-11-2016, 01:17 AM)LongRanger_imp Wrote: I've had mixed success with dual-compound front tires over the years. The centers tend to wear relatively well, but the sides don't, and over time, a very pronounced ridge develops between the hard center and the soft sides, to the point that the tire's profile is ruined (usually within about 4000 miles). Different bike, but I've started using the Bridgestone T30GT on my heavy K1200RS. The front is a single compound and has maintained its profile very well. The rear is a dual compound. I've been very impressed so far. Ferret, perhaps something to consider for your ST if you've not been pleased with the wear of your Michelins. As far as my CB, I've been pleased with the OEM Bridgestones. Must be old tech or something. Never seen that happen. What year and brand of tire?
My 2012 GSX-R 750 track bike has only ever run Dunlop Q3's (a dual-compound tire) and the sides get a lot more wear than the center.
Certain tracks that are very high-speed and work one side of the tire more than the other necessitate removal of the tire early, but those "take-offs" can then be saved for used on slower tracks with a more balanced mix of turns.
The boundary between the hard/soft area can be seen but never any deformation or handling issues.
The Conti's don't really have a dual-compound; they have a curing process that treats the center and sides differently to provide greater longevity to the center of the tire, so it's more of a true blending.
Dual-compound tires are very common these days.
(08-11-2016, 12:30 AM)mininsx_imp Wrote: I put a set of Metzler Roadtec Z8 Interact on last week because the rear comes in stock size. I like them very much so far and the rear is a dual-compound so it should last, too.
http://metzeler.com/site/us/products/tyr...logue.html Keep us posted on these tires, will ya? I might want to try a set after I get tired of looking at my Conti's.
I've put close to a hundred miles on them now (lot of rain here in KY) and the handling is sweet, just like it was when I got the bike. The only thing I've noticed that's different is the ride is just a bit harsher than before, probably due to a stiffer sidewall, which may change with more miles. Most people probably wouldn't notice it.  Thanks for that, yes, I'd notice it instantly with respect to edge grip and compliance. Bet they handle great, but I'll "stick" with the Conti's for my kind of riding.
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(08-11-2016, 12:30 AM)mininsx_imp Wrote: I put a set of Metzler Roadtec Z8 Interact on last week because the rear comes in stock size. I like them very much so far and the rear is a dual-compound so it should last, too.
http://metzeler.com/site/us/products/tyr...logue.html
I went with these tires, since they're the original size and they're affordable too. I even found them on sale at Motorcycle Superstore here in Louisville. Let me know if you're ever up this way and we'll ride.
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Jaychaynes, how are you finding the tyres?
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